Did you get the coolant leak fixed Harry ?
I didn't read the whole thread. This has got to be the longest thread in internet history.
I didn't read the whole thread. This has got to be the longest thread in internet history.
Amsoil SSO 0W-30, 1993 Civic, 3,007 miles
- Thread starter harry j
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Merkava 4,
Yes sir, I'm happy to report that the leak is fixed and I am able to extend the OCIs.
This thread will only last as long as the 1993 Civic (or me) lasts.
It's good to hear from you again.
Yes sir, I'm happy to report that the leak is fixed and I am able to extend the OCIs.
This thread will only last as long as the 1993 Civic (or me) lasts.
It's good to hear from you again.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Did you get the coolant leak fixed Harry ?
I didn't read the whole thread. This has got to be the longest thread in internet history.
Longest current thread that I could find on there internet is here. I don't know what the website is about, nor what this thread is about, but it has 952,152 pages and over 10.14 million responses.
Did you get the coolant leak fixed Harry ?
I didn't read the whole thread. This has got to be the longest thread in internet history.
Longest current thread that I could find on there internet is here. I don't know what the website is about, nor what this thread is about, but it has 952,152 pages and over 10.14 million responses.
After 8,000 miles, MPG is holding steady at 36.3
490,000 mile oil change due soon.
490,000 mile oil change due soon.
Wow. Does this have the d15b7? Mine recently went and sold the car. 295k miles. 94 Civic Hatch.
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Yes iluvhonda, it is the original d15b7 engine. Bet you regret selling your '94 hatch.
Motor was done and it has bad rust.
I hate when that happens, was it too bad to fix?
Didn’t wanna grow money at it anymore. Think it threw a rod.
Miles on Civic-490,411
Miles on oil-9,315
Amsoil OW-30 AZO DEXOS 1, GEN 2
EAO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2
Dimple magnetic drain plug M14 X 1.5 X 16
5 ozs Liquimolly
16 oz make up oil
Blackstone Labs; Harry, Something changed between December and now-lead showed up for the first time in
recent history and shows an uptick in the amount of bearing wear. It's just barely outside the average
range, but the deviation from the norm of zero is worth noting.Potassium and Sodium also increased
and could show a small coolant leak, which could be related to the bearing wear. If it is coolant, it's
not a lot and you probably wouldn't even notice a drop in the reservoir.Silicon bumped up some, probably
from dirt or sealers. The TBN is fine at 3.3 and the Particle count was 18/17/14.
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Aluminum------------4------------------------4 (Universal average based on a 3,500 mile OCI)
Chromium------------1------------------------1
Iron----------------14-----------------------9
Copper--------------3------------------------3
Lead----------------5------------------------2
Tin-----------------0------------------------1
Molybdenum----------345----------------------85
Nickel--------------0------------------------0
Manganese-----------0------------------------0
Silver--------------0------------------------0
Titanium------------0------------------------0
Potassium-----------21-----------------------4
Boron---------------67-----------------------50
Silicon-------------25-----------------------11
Sodium--------------17-----------------------43
Calcium-------------1585---------------------2151
Magnesium-----------711----------------------142
Phosphorus----------718----------------------713
Zinc----------------744----------------------833
Barium--------------0------------------------0
Miles on oil-9,315
Amsoil OW-30 AZO DEXOS 1, GEN 2
EAO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2
Dimple magnetic drain plug M14 X 1.5 X 16
5 ozs Liquimolly
16 oz make up oil
Blackstone Labs; Harry, Something changed between December and now-lead showed up for the first time in
recent history and shows an uptick in the amount of bearing wear. It's just barely outside the average
range, but the deviation from the norm of zero is worth noting.Potassium and Sodium also increased
and could show a small coolant leak, which could be related to the bearing wear. If it is coolant, it's
not a lot and you probably wouldn't even notice a drop in the reservoir.Silicon bumped up some, probably
from dirt or sealers. The TBN is fine at 3.3 and the Particle count was 18/17/14.
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Aluminum------------4------------------------4 (Universal average based on a 3,500 mile OCI)
Chromium------------1------------------------1
Iron----------------14-----------------------9
Copper--------------3------------------------3
Lead----------------5------------------------2
Tin-----------------0------------------------1
Molybdenum----------345----------------------85
Nickel--------------0------------------------0
Manganese-----------0------------------------0
Silver--------------0------------------------0
Titanium------------0------------------------0
Potassium-----------21-----------------------4
Boron---------------67-----------------------50
Silicon-------------25-----------------------11
Sodium--------------17-----------------------43
Calcium-------------1585---------------------2151
Magnesium-----------711----------------------142
Phosphorus----------718----------------------713
Zinc----------------744----------------------833
Barium--------------0------------------------0
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SUS Viscosity @ 210 F------62.6------------------------57-67(VALUE SHOULD BE)
cST Viscosity @ 100 C------10.95-----------------------9.4-12.4
Flashpoint in F------------385------------------------->385
Fuel %---------------------TR-------------------------- Antifreeze %---------------?---------------------------0.0
Water %--------------------0.0------------------------- Insolubles %---------------0.2-------------------------- TBN------------------------3.3
ISO oil cleanliness code---18/17/14
Particle counts for 18/17/14;
>=2 microns------2,676
>=5--------------991
>=10-------------274
>=15-------------106
>=25-------------25
>=50-------------2
>=100------------0This is surprising, especially with the increased fuel mileage this fill seemed to have brought. The mystery here is whether the new AZO formulation caused the increased wear metals, or something else...
Originally Posted By: harry j
Miles on Civic-490,411
Miles on oil-9,315
Amsoil OW-30 AZO DEXOS 1, GEN 2
EAO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2
Dimple magnetic drain plug M14 X 1.5 X 16
5 ozs Liquimolly
16 oz make up oil
Blackstone Labs; Harry, Something changed between December and now-lead showed up for the first time in
recent history and shows an uptick in the amount of bearing wear. It's just barely outside the average
range, but the deviation from the norm of zero is worth noting.Potassium and Sodium also increased
and could show a small coolant leak, which could be related to the bearing wear. If it is coolant, it's
not a lot and you probably wouldn't even notice a drop in the reservoir.Silicon bumped up some, probably
from dirt or sealers. The TBN is fine at 3.3 and the Particle count was 18/17/14.
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Aluminum------------4------------------------4 (Universal average based on a 3,500 mile OCI)
Chromium------------1------------------------1
Iron----------------14-----------------------9
Copper--------------3------------------------3
Lead----------------5------------------------2
Tin-----------------0------------------------1
Molybdenum----------345----------------------85
Nickel--------------0------------------------0
Manganese-----------0------------------------0
Silver--------------0------------------------0
Titanium------------0------------------------0
Potassium-----------21-----------------------4
Boron---------------67-----------------------50
Silicon-------------25-----------------------11
Sodium--------------17-----------------------43
Calcium-------------1585---------------------2151
Magnesium-----------711----------------------142
Phosphorus----------718----------------------713
Zinc----------------744----------------------833
Barium--------------0------------------------0
Originally Posted By: harry j
Miles on Civic-490,411
Miles on oil-9,315
Amsoil OW-30 AZO DEXOS 1, GEN 2
EAO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2
Dimple magnetic drain plug M14 X 1.5 X 16
5 ozs Liquimolly
16 oz make up oil
Blackstone Labs; Harry, Something changed between December and now-lead showed up for the first time in
recent history and shows an uptick in the amount of bearing wear. It's just barely outside the average
range, but the deviation from the norm of zero is worth noting.Potassium and Sodium also increased
and could show a small coolant leak, which could be related to the bearing wear. If it is coolant, it's
not a lot and you probably wouldn't even notice a drop in the reservoir.Silicon bumped up some, probably
from dirt or sealers. The TBN is fine at 3.3 and the Particle count was 18/17/14.
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Aluminum------------4------------------------4 (Universal average based on a 3,500 mile OCI)
Chromium------------1------------------------1
Iron----------------14-----------------------9
Copper--------------3------------------------3
Lead----------------5------------------------2
Tin-----------------0------------------------1
Molybdenum----------345----------------------85
Nickel--------------0------------------------0
Manganese-----------0------------------------0
Silver--------------0------------------------0
Titanium------------0------------------------0
Potassium-----------21-----------------------4
Boron---------------67-----------------------50
Silicon-------------25-----------------------11
Sodium--------------17-----------------------43
Calcium-------------1585---------------------2151
Magnesium-----------711----------------------142
Phosphorus----------718----------------------713
Zinc----------------744----------------------833
Barium--------------0------------------------0
Code:
SUS Viscosity @ 210 F------62.6------------------------57-67(VALUE SHOULD BE)
cST Viscosity @ 100 C------10.95-----------------------9.4-12.4
Flashpoint in F------------385------------------------->385
Fuel %---------------------TR-------------------------- Antifreeze %---------------?---------------------------0.0
Water %--------------------0.0------------------------- Insolubles %---------------0.2-------------------------- TBN------------------------3.3
ISO oil cleanliness code---18/17/14
Particle counts for 18/17/14;
>=2 microns------2,676
>=5--------------991
>=10-------------274
>=15-------------106
>=25-------------25
>=50-------------2
>=100------------0crainholio, I don't thhink it is the oil but we will see next time. Last week we had very low
temperatures here and when my Civic started in the morning, the RPM instantly shot up
to 2,200. A bearing squeal went on for maybe 15 seconds or so then went away. This
happened on two seperate occasions. I thought at the time that the timing belt
tensioner was the source of the noise, but now it could have been oil starved bearings.
This has never happened before. It may have something to do with the new oil after all.
temperatures here and when my Civic started in the morning, the RPM instantly shot up
to 2,200. A bearing squeal went on for maybe 15 seconds or so then went away. This
happened on two seperate occasions. I thought at the time that the timing belt
tensioner was the source of the noise, but now it could have been oil starved bearings.
This has never happened before. It may have something to do with the new oil after all.
I neglected to emphasize that the new oil formula only required 16 ounces of make up oil in 9,000 miles!
Gas mileage before oil change (old formula Amsoil 0W-30) 14,250 miles divided by 436.3 gallons = 32.6 MPG
After oil change (new formula Amsoil 0W-30) 10,235 miles divided by 283.103 gallons = 36.1 MPG
After oil change (new formula Amsoil 0W-30) 10,235 miles divided by 283.103 gallons = 36.1 MPG
Sounds reasonable addguy, I'll have to wait for the next oil change at 500,000 miles to see.
I have never started the car in 14 degree weather before, that shreiking sound may have something
to do with the "elevated" lead. 5PPM is no reason for concern. I like your explanation much better.
I have never started the car in 14 degree weather before, that shreiking sound may have something
to do with the "elevated" lead. 5PPM is no reason for concern. I like your explanation much better.
I would really like to know if anyone else has experienced a gas mileage increase using the new spec oil.
(Dexos 1, gen 2)
(Dexos 1, gen 2)
I count 47 times, just about every time the oil is changed.
Miles on engine--500,272
Miles on oil-----9,856
Amsoil 0W-30 AZO Dexos 1, Gen 2
Amsoil EAO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2's
Dimple magnetic oil drain plug
5 ozs Liquimoly
30 ozs makeup oil
Blackstone Labs; We're glad to see this Civic is still going strong, even if it is wearing more than it used
to. Lead (bearings) is up to 8PPM now and Chrome (piston rings) is also higher than in the past. Neither metal
is terribly high, but thay do stand out from this engine's long history. Potassium remains elevated. It could
show a trace of coolant, but it's hard to make that call as sodium (also found in anti-freeze) is still
reasonably low at 14 PPM. The viscosity is in spec and the TBN is plenty strong at 5.0. The particle count
was 15/15/12. If it's still running fine, then just check back next time.
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Aluminum---------3------------------------------4 (universal average based on 3,500 OCI)
Chromium---------2------------------------------1
Iron-------------17-----------------------------9
Copper-----------3------------------------------3
Lead-------------8------------------------------2
Tin--------------0------------------------------1
Molybdenum-------356----------------------------85
Nickel-----------0------------------------------0
Manganese--------0------------------------------0
Silver-----------0------------------------------0
Titanium---------0------------------------------0
Potassium--------28-----------------------------4
Boron------------68-----------------------------50
Silicon----------18-----------------------------11
Sodium-----------14-----------------------------43
Calcium----------1367---------------------------2137
Magnesium--------928----------------------------148
Posphorus--------768----------------------------712
Zinc-------------814----------------------------832
Barium-----------0------------------------------0
Miles on oil-----9,856
Amsoil 0W-30 AZO Dexos 1, Gen 2
Amsoil EAO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2's
Dimple magnetic oil drain plug
5 ozs Liquimoly
30 ozs makeup oil
Blackstone Labs; We're glad to see this Civic is still going strong, even if it is wearing more than it used
to. Lead (bearings) is up to 8PPM now and Chrome (piston rings) is also higher than in the past. Neither metal
is terribly high, but thay do stand out from this engine's long history. Potassium remains elevated. It could
show a trace of coolant, but it's hard to make that call as sodium (also found in anti-freeze) is still
reasonably low at 14 PPM. The viscosity is in spec and the TBN is plenty strong at 5.0. The particle count
was 15/15/12. If it's still running fine, then just check back next time.
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Aluminum---------3------------------------------4 (universal average based on 3,500 OCI)
Chromium---------2------------------------------1
Iron-------------17-----------------------------9
Copper-----------3------------------------------3
Lead-------------8------------------------------2
Tin--------------0------------------------------1
Molybdenum-------356----------------------------85
Nickel-----------0------------------------------0
Manganese--------0------------------------------0
Silver-----------0------------------------------0
Titanium---------0------------------------------0
Potassium--------28-----------------------------4
Boron------------68-----------------------------50
Silicon----------18-----------------------------11
Sodium-----------14-----------------------------43
Calcium----------1367---------------------------2137
Magnesium--------928----------------------------148
Posphorus--------768----------------------------712
Zinc-------------814----------------------------832
Barium-----------0------------------------------0
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SUS Viscosity @ 210F---------------62.1--------------------57-67 (should be)
cST Viscosity @ 100C---------------10.81-------------------9.4-12.4
Flashpoint in F--------------------400--------------------->385
Fuel %----------------------------- Antifreeze %-----------------------?------------------------0
Water %----------------------------0------------------------ Insolubles %-----------------------0.3---------------------- TBN--------------------------------5.0
ISO Code 15/15/12
Particle counts for ISO Code 15/15/12;
>= 2 microns-----606 particles
>= 5-------------224
>= 10------------62
>= 15------------24
>= 25------------5
>= 50------------0
>= 100-----------0
I'm wondering if the boosted cleaning ability of the newly formulated Amsoil 0W-30 oil
is flushing out particles that have clung to the engines walls over the years.Similar threads
