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Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4630760
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Still haven't seen any yet.

Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4630824
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Dynamic viscosity at -4F/-20C for a 5W30?

That's a typo and already been pointed out to them. wink The Canadian sheet has the same error, simply "corrected" to Celsius.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4632784
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Nice flashpoint. Phosphorous is right at the high limit of SN. I was expecting the viscosity to be closer to 12.5, but 11.85 is getting up there in the 30 range.


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4658327
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I have almost 5000 miles on this oil in my 2006 Tundra

Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4755137
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Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: ZZman
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Thank you for posting. I just heard today I'll be receiving some samples as well. Look forward to giving it a try. Which is nice since I use Shell gas in both cars. thumbsup


Awesome!


How are y’all getting this stuff for free?


Dont know, i asked the Rotella rep about and got stonewalled. Shame on SOPUS for not answering a oil nerds question about product availability

Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: 53' Stude] #4755271
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Aside from a distributor, I'd say to check NAPA. It's showing up on the NAPA Canada website, and has for quite a while.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4770583
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I got my last 2 gallons from O’Reilly and they price matched the T6 5w40 from Wal Mart so I got it for $21.40 per gallon. I

Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4785427
06/13/18 02:13 AM
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I've been itching to try some! Heard good stuff about Rotella.



Respectfully,

Pajero!


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4787670
06/15/18 06:25 PM
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There is only 3 ppm moly. I can't see how thats enough to do anything useful. Moly dosing (FM) experiments show not much happening until you get to about 40 ppm, with a flattening of effects after around 80 ppm, if I remember correctly. ... 3 ppm is way below typical for an oil that tries to use moly for FM.
Anybody know why its there?

Phosphorus levels are at the max allowed for a 5w30 SN oil, so no surprise there, and typical

It does look like it would do fine for avoiding LSPI since it has low calcium and zero sodium. Not tested to it, but probably OK.



Alkaryl amine probably refers to Diphenyl Amine. It's a very common antioxidant used in engine oils.-- SonofJoe quote from an old post

So its a PurePlus base oil (Fischer-Tropsch), no PAO or POE. That should be quality enough though.

The alkyl borate part: Wondering if its really alkyl radicals attached to borate esters???
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ls.3010140404

The "alkoxylated alcohol" I've never seen on an MSDS like that. Does that increase the oil's ability to hold some water (emulsify) in solution?

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Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: Pajero] #4787723
06/15/18 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Pajero
I've been itching to try some! Heard good stuff about Rotella.

I've been happy with it, but I generally don't get dissatisfied by oils unless I try something really foolish. It's quiet and smooth as the previous 5w-40 Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40 fill, with slightly (but noticeably) better unaided starts when we hit the horrible cold this winter. There's been no noticeable consumption, either, just like the Delvac and the PYB before it. I won't be able to notice any fuel economy difference, since it would easily be lost in the noise. I couldn't determine fuel economy difference between 5w-30 ILSAC and 5w-40 CJ-4, so switching from one HDEO to another isn't going to be measurable by me, either.


Plain, simple Garak.

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1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: oil_film_movies] #4789150
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
no PAO or POE


POE will not show up on a SDS. It's very likely that many of the oils popular on this site have a small amount of POE for seal and additive compatibility (rather than using Group I or II).


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Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4789329
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
no PAO or POE
POE will not show up on a SDS. It's very likely that many of the oils popular on this site have a small amount of POE for seal and additive compatibility (rather than using Group I or II).


Notice above, for this Rotella Multi-Vehicle, the GroupIII was a high percentage of the mix, hence taking up all or almost all the room for a base oil, since the DI package is around 20-25% or so. I'm not so sure POE is as common as you think. There are other ways to balance out the qualities of a GroupIII, GroupIII+PAO, or a semi-synthetic. Small amounts of polymer esters, not POE, is suspected in some formulas like Castrol Magnatec.

I saw POE recently on a Valvoline Premium Blue Restore MSDS:
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
It does have a lot of ester (POE) in it, which does give it great solvency properties (MSDS):

Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4816500
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So, since I'm still super new at this, is this going to be a good oil to use in an '05 Subaru WRX STI? I've been using T6 5w-40 this whole time, but I'm concerned with the loss of the SN rating.

Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: pocketdrummer] #4816827
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It would be perfectly acceptable, yes. I wouldn't be overly concerned with the 5w-40's loss of SN for one out of warranty, either.


Plain, simple Garak.

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1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Shell Rotella T6 Multi-Vehicle 5W-30 [Re: ZZman] #4858853
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