Is the Baldwin B-164 a good bypass filter?
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Please let me know what you find out. I just wished there was a three party (similar to Consumer Reports) who would rate all these so called by-pass filters.
Who makes the HF6604? Does it require a different filter base unit than the Baldwin?
Thanks,
Griz95
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Don't feel alone...I'm the same way....Quote:
I must be a computer dummy or something. I have seen others who have posted them but can't figure it out myself.
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steved
Typing out the data is best for the board. To post a report image you can do a screen capture and edit it in MSPaint. You then need a remote hosting site like Imagestation or Imageshack to upload it to. You then link to the remotely hosted image. The problem is, if your account goes bye-bye ..then the post loses all the data.
The best/easiest thing is to copy someone else's typed in UOA and then just edit in your numbers.
To do a screen cap, just open the PDF file. Hit the PNTSCRN button on your keyboard. This copies the screen to the clipboard. Open MSPAINT and go to EDIT on the pull down menu and select "PASTE". You may need to do a couple of screen captures to get the information to reside in the view correctly. You'll then cut out the browser part of the image leaving just the important part of the UOA. You then save it as a JPEG (not the massive Bitmap default). Name it.
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Thanks Gary for that lesson on computer imaging. I have been trying to figure out for some time how to go about that! No I can finally post those reports so other can see them!
Gary Allen...I think I'll just type out the UAO info for now.
Thanks,
Griz95
Thanks,
Griz95
sdeeter...how much does this base cost? What type of fittings does it take? And how much are the HF6604 filters?
Griz95
Griz95
Patienty awaiting the results..
Please make sure you write detailed steps as to how you got your first oil analysis, and how you got it after the bypass filter was installed..
I actually folded and changed my oil.
I HAD to find out if this new CJ-4 motor oil is worth the extra cost.. I only had about 8k on my last oil change with the B50 and it did exceptionally well according to the particle count.
I will test it again.. and again.. and again.. Just to make sure that the last result wasn't a fluke.
Please make sure you write detailed steps as to how you got your first oil analysis, and how you got it after the bypass filter was installed..
I actually folded and changed my oil.
I will test it again.. and again.. and again.. Just to make sure that the last result wasn't a fluke.
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The filter base # xref's to Wix ..and therefore NAPA ..and therefore Fleetfilter. Last time I checked the filter head was about $24 from my local, service oriented (cough-cough = expensive) NAPA.
I asked Cummins this question:
What is the micron rating of the LF778?
I am looking for a bypass filter (and associated mounting head) that will filter into the 1 to 3 micron range.
Thanks,
Steve
Fleetmaster:
Steve, the LF778 has a micron rating of 10 Micron at 98% efficient and 5 Micron at 95% efficient. This filter is made for Carrier and we do not offer the head that is used with this filter and application.
We do offer the LF777 and head (3304173S) that filters the same size particles.
The LF778 is a bypass filter...but it obviously isn't a real good choice, but I guess it would be an option??
steved
What is the micron rating of the LF778?
I am looking for a bypass filter (and associated mounting head) that will filter into the 1 to 3 micron range.
Thanks,
Steve
Fleetmaster:
Steve, the LF778 has a micron rating of 10 Micron at 98% efficient and 5 Micron at 95% efficient. This filter is made for Carrier and we do not offer the head that is used with this filter and application.
We do offer the LF777 and head (3304173S) that filters the same size particles.
The LF778 is a bypass filter...but it obviously isn't a real good choice, but I guess it would be an option??
steved
I wish we could get a final answer on what rating these filters are at..
In any case, but this stuff into perspective. Lets say that it only filters down to 10um.
Put into perspective, 10 Micron =
"Microbes are dispersed from skin cells, and a human body sheds the outermost layer of skin every 24 hours.
1 BILLION SKIN FLAKES EVERY 24 HOURS.
A skin flake is typically 33 microns - 44 microns. They break down to typically 20µ (micron) but 7-10% are less than 10µ (micron). The equivalent diameter of bacteria carrying particles is 12-14µ (micron). These settle by gravity at 0.37 meters per second."
12-14µ (micron) size particles will settle in wounds of hospital patients and aseptically filled containers in pharmaceutical applications by gravity."
http://www.mvent.com.ph/references/cleanroom.htm
Or:
Beach Sand 100 to 2000 microns
Human Hair 40 to 300 microns
Mold Spores 10 to 30 microns
Pollens 10 to 1000 microns
Fertilizer 10 to 1000 microns
http://www.lakeair.com/index-2_b.htm
Which is a point that I made a long time ago.. While many bypass filters may filter to a finer micron then 10um, the actual benefit to cost isn't enough to justify it.
Or, put another way: at what point is enough filtration enough, and how do you determine it? Why stop at 2-3 micron in size? Why stop at .1 micron in size? Where does it end and why?
(Thats a general question to anyone who wants to answer)
In any case, but this stuff into perspective. Lets say that it only filters down to 10um.
Put into perspective, 10 Micron =
"Microbes are dispersed from skin cells, and a human body sheds the outermost layer of skin every 24 hours.
1 BILLION SKIN FLAKES EVERY 24 HOURS.
A skin flake is typically 33 microns - 44 microns. They break down to typically 20µ (micron) but 7-10% are less than 10µ (micron). The equivalent diameter of bacteria carrying particles is 12-14µ (micron). These settle by gravity at 0.37 meters per second."
12-14µ (micron) size particles will settle in wounds of hospital patients and aseptically filled containers in pharmaceutical applications by gravity."
http://www.mvent.com.ph/references/cleanroom.htm
Or:
Beach Sand 100 to 2000 microns
Human Hair 40 to 300 microns
Mold Spores 10 to 30 microns
Pollens 10 to 1000 microns
Fertilizer 10 to 1000 microns
http://www.lakeair.com/index-2_b.htm
Which is a point that I made a long time ago.. While many bypass filters may filter to a finer micron then 10um, the actual benefit to cost isn't enough to justify it.
Or, put another way: at what point is enough filtration enough, and how do you determine it? Why stop at 2-3 micron in size? Why stop at .1 micron in size? Where does it end and why?
(Thats a general question to anyone who wants to answer)
I should have also added:
The Fleetguard LF778 is the same as the Baldwin B-164, which both cross to a Wix 51704. So you have the answer from Fleetguard for their filter...10u @ 98.6% and 5u @ 95%. And you have another option of where to buy filters...
95% @ 5u isn't that bad actually, if you think about it...
steved
The Fleetguard LF778 is the same as the Baldwin B-164, which both cross to a Wix 51704. So you have the answer from Fleetguard for their filter...10u @ 98.6% and 5u @ 95%. And you have another option of where to buy filters...
95% @ 5u isn't that bad actually, if you think about it...
steved
I took off the return line from the by-pass (B-164) today and measured the flow rate. It was 1 3/4 qts. per minute at idle. The oil was room temperature at the time.
Okay...Thanks. For now I am going to go with this by-pass for a while any way and see what my next UOA report looks like.
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