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#4534579 - 10/05/17 12:51 PM Re: Battery [Re: GGorman04]
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Registered: 08/15/16
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My costco interstate lasted 7 years before giving out. Pepboys also installs the battery for you, though I would make an appt so you dont have to wait too long.
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#4534664 - 10/05/17 02:32 PM Re: Battery [Re: GGorman04]
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Don't know of any deals. But, Odyssey batteries are the one of the best. I go to some isolated areas in the mountains. Prior to Odyssey I was partial to Sears Platinum Diehard. Sears has sales every few months and has good warranties. The Bosch batteries had bad rating for my application.

A good friend using Autozone batteries, because there are a plethora of Autozones.

Good hunting!

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#4534702 - 10/05/17 03:39 PM Re: Battery [Re: Claud]
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Registered: 03/18/08
Posts: 4854
Loc: South Florida
Originally Posted By: Claud
I don't see any saving in replacing a battery before it fails. It's money you needn't spend until the time comes, better in your bank than the auto parts store.


This is a very simple cost/benefit analysis. I care deeply for the wife. She travel's all over the state of Florida for work, often in very bad towns. I DO NOT want her to ever have to worry about her car not starting. Her car gets a new battery about every 2 years on average. The average car battery last less than 3 years here, so I am giving up about 1/3 of the batteries life, to make sure that she has a reliable car. The $100 cost is worth it, for me, for her car. Compare that to the cost/benefit analysis on my cars, and I could care less if my battery dies. I drive the car until it dies. I only travel around town, and can call a friend to come help me, worst case scenario.

Originally Posted By: Claud
Florida is notorious for killing batteries?. Arizona heat or Minnesota winter perhaps. What happens in Florida that is so hard on batteries?.


OEM batteries last perhaps 4 years, ALL parts store batteries last 3 years or less. This is based on 25 plus years living here, maintaining cars for several family members. Batteries on a daily driver hardly ever last more than 3 years in Florida, in my experience.

My last Advance Auto parts gold battery lasted 18 months. Yawn.
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#4534807 - 10/05/17 05:50 PM Re: Battery [Re: bubbatime]
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Registered: 09/18/12
Posts: 5011
Loc: DFW
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
I care deeply for the wife. She travel's all over the state of Florida for work, often in very bad towns. I DO NOT want her to ever have to worry about her car not starting. Her car gets a new battery about every 2 years on average. The average car battery last less than 3 years here, so I am giving up about 1/3 of the batteries life, to make sure that she has a reliable car.


You are wise, sir.

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#4534854 - 10/05/17 06:47 PM Re: Battery [Re: bubbatime]
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Registered: 10/31/05
Posts: 1123
Loc: windsor, ontario, canada.
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: Claud
I don't see any saving in replacing a battery before it fails. It's money you needn't spend until the time comes, better in your bank than the auto parts store.


This is a very simple cost/benefit analysis. I care deeply for the wife. She travel's all over the state of Florida for work, often in very bad towns. I DO NOT want her to ever have to worry about her car not starting. Her car gets a new battery about every 2 years on average. The average car battery last less than 3 years here, so I am giving up about 1/3 of the batteries life, to make sure that she has a reliable car. The $100 cost is worth it, for me, for her car. Compare that to the cost/benefit analysis on my cars, and I could care less if my battery dies. I drive the car until it dies. I only travel around town, and can call a friend to come help me, worst case scenario.

Originally Posted By: Claud
Florida is notorious for killing batteries?. Arizona heat or Minnesota winter perhaps. What happens in Florida that is so hard on batteries?.


OEM batteries last perhaps 4 years, ALL parts store batteries last 3 years or less. This is based on 25 plus years living here, maintaining cars for several family members. Batteries on a daily driver hardly ever last more than 3 years in Florida, in my experience.

My last Advance Auto parts gold battery lasted 18 months. Yawn.


^^^ this.
claud -- per your post, you would rather keep 100ish bucks in the bank, and let a battery fail, before replacing it. I'm not going to keep lunch money in the bank, and let a battery fail, before I replace it.
it's no different than replacing brake pads, before the metal to metal screeching starts.
or, replacing tires before they go bald.
it's just good preventive maintenance, and common sense.
but, everyone maintains their vehicles as they see fit. to each his own.
have a good night, all.


(we're at that time of the year when many threads start about guys asking -- my battery is x years old-- should I replace it ? if one has to ask/is concerned about it, just go and buy a new battery. why agonize over such a petty decision ?)
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#4534900 - 10/05/17 08:01 PM Re: Battery [Re: yeti]
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 6827
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: yeti
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: Claud
I don't see any saving in replacing a battery before it fails. It's money you needn't spend until the time comes, better in your bank than the auto parts store.


This is a very simple cost/benefit analysis. I care deeply for the wife. She travel's all over the state of Florida for work, often in very bad towns. I DO NOT want her to ever have to worry about her car not starting. Her car gets a new battery about every 2 years on average. The average car battery last less than 3 years here, so I am giving up about 1/3 of the batteries life, to make sure that she has a reliable car. The $100 cost is worth it, for me, for her car. Compare that to the cost/benefit analysis on my cars, and I could care less if my battery dies. I drive the car until it dies. I only travel around town, and can call a friend to come help me, worst case scenario.

Originally Posted By: Claud
Florida is notorious for killing batteries?. Arizona heat or Minnesota winter perhaps. What happens in Florida that is so hard on batteries?.


OEM batteries last perhaps 4 years, ALL parts store batteries last 3 years or less. This is based on 25 plus years living here, maintaining cars for several family members. Batteries on a daily driver hardly ever last more than 3 years in Florida, in my experience.

My last Advance Auto parts gold battery lasted 18 months. Yawn.


^^^ this.
claud -- per your post, you would rather keep 100ish bucks in the bank, and let a battery fail, before replacing it. I'm not going to keep lunch money in the bank, and let a battery fail, before I replace it.
it's no different than replacing brake pads, before the metal to metal screeching starts.
or, replacing tires before they go bald.
it's just good preventive maintenance, and common sense.
but, everyone maintains their vehicles as they see fit. to each his own.
have a good night, all.


(we're at that time of the year when many threads start about guys asking -- my battery is x years old-- should I replace it ? if one has to ask/is concerned about it, just go and buy a new battery. why agonize over such a petty decision ?)
Wow, $100 (even Canadian) for lunch? That's a few martinis! I picked up a cheap impedance type battery tester, and check them all before the cold weather hits-this one:
https://mobiledistributorsupply.com/2436...AiABEgKV5PD_BwE
That way I can replace a bad one before it dies-and occasionally before it's out of the 3 year warranty.
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#4534915 - 10/05/17 08:15 PM Re: Battery [Re: bubbatime]
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Great thinking and great post bubbatime. You hit the nail right on the head. I would rather not have the lady stranded than worry about $110.
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#4535187 - 10/06/17 07:25 AM Re: Battery [Re: GGorman04]
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Registered: 09/18/12
Posts: 5011
Loc: DFW
You can have your cake and eat it, too. TEST IT! If you are unwilling or unable to do it at home go to just about any store that sells batteries and they will test it for free. Then you don't have to guess, don't have to waste money, and don't have to worry about you or loved ones being stranded.

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#4535249 - 10/06/17 09:15 AM Re: Battery [Re: GGorman04]
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Registered: 11/27/11
Posts: 425
Loc: pennsylvania
On a side note, I ordered a Walmart EverStart Maxx yesterday. Today I received an email they are sold out.

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#4535254 - 10/06/17 09:28 AM Re: Battery [Re: bbhero]
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Registered: 07/23/14
Posts: 86
Loc: North TEXAS
Originally Posted By: bbhero
Great thinking and great post bubbatime. You hit the nail right on the head. I would rather not have the lady stranded than worry about $110.


BINGO! I maintain cars for wife and (female) kiddos, who often are away from home after dark.
A 2yo $100 battery with 90% + of its 'reserve' capacity remaining is SIGNIFICANTLY MORE reliable than a 5yo $200 battery thats batting 60% at best!

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#4535464 - 10/06/17 02:37 PM Re: Battery [Re: GGorman04]
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Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 3410
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
I just went with a Batteries Plus (Duracell, 4 year warranty, AGM)

Why, because they are not made in Mexico like all the others!

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#4535643 - 10/06/17 06:15 PM Re: Battery [Re: Pajero]
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Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 3410
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
Originally Posted By: Pajero
Don't know of any deals. But, Odyssey batteries are the one of the best. I go to some isolated areas in the mountains. Prior to Odyssey I was partial to Sears Platinum Diehard. Pajero!


The word is that since Odyssey was bought out a few years ago and moved production to Mexico the quality has gone down the toilet, they are living on their reputation!

Sorry, it was Optima that was sold and is now made in Mexico, not sure about Odyssey.


Edited by Spector (10/06/17 06:21 PM)

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#4536006 - 10/07/17 08:26 AM Re: Battery [Re: Spector]
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Registered: 09/18/12
Posts: 5011
Loc: DFW
Originally Posted By: Spector
The word is that since Odyssey was bought out a few years ago and moved production to Mexico the quality has gone down the toilet, they are living on their reputation!


That is what posters were saying about OPTIMA batteries. Did the same thing happen with Odyssey batteries or are you confusing the two? I'm almost 100% sure that Odyssey batteries are still US made.

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#4536050 - 10/07/17 09:29 AM Re: Battery [Re: GGorman04]
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Registered: 05/22/17
Posts: 96
Loc: ST Augustine, FL
My AAP F150 battery failed right at 5 years 1 month (Mid- Carolina's area for most of it's life), right after moving it to Florida. I changed the RAV4's out at 3 years, because that's what the OEM one lasted for (and the 4 cyl. exhaust manifold is in the front of the engine, hence the battery has an insulating blanket around it).4Runner got a new AAP at 4 years 6 month's as a precautionary prior to daughter's college 13 month's ago. I order at AAP online and use a coupon, then pickup in store and let them install it. I had to buy an Optima for the 2006 Prius about 6 month's ago (right before giving it to my son, the Firestone service tech.), since they didn't have any AAP brand in stock. I had to change out one bad traction battery cel about 1 1/2 years ago on the Prius.
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#4536078 - 10/07/17 09:55 AM Re: Battery [Re: GGorman04]
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Registered: 09/18/12
Posts: 5011
Loc: DFW
The last battery in my 89 Accord was an Optima red top purchased in 2008. I wrecked the car in 2012 and it was doing fine. Prior to buying my first Optima in 2002, the longest a battery ever lasted in that car was three years. The first Optima lasted six years and failed very gradually compared to suddenly with previous batteries. So, it was the first battery I replaced before requiring a jump start. The second Optima, purchased after they started being made in Mexico, had already outlasted prior conventional batteries, but at four years I didn't get to use it long enough to be able to comment on the performance of the Mexican version versus the US version.

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