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#4515097 - 09/13/17 11:56 AM Valvoline Updated PDSs
Mathew_Boss Offline


Registered: 09/16/14
Posts: 169
Loc: Nebraska
Valvoline Synpower and Synpower Maxlife both have new PDS's as of 7 September 2017. It looks like they are taking a page from castrol PDSs as they are very non-descriptive. Biggest change thats noticeable is the viscosity is ~9% lower than the previous formulation (5W-20) and 0w-16 is now a thing you can get from Valvoline. I find the lack of information a little disappointing compared to their old data sheets. Thoughts?

Valvoline SynPower Maxlife PDS

Valvoline Synpower PDS

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#4515115 - 09/13/17 12:22 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
thescreensavers Offline


Registered: 12/21/09
Posts: 414
Loc: Jupiter, FL
Well that sucks.. looks like MST 5W40, what I use is still the same
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#4515122 - 09/13/17 12:27 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Virtus_Probi Offline


Registered: 06/25/15
Posts: 3970
Loc: New England
These show dexos1 Gen 2 licenses where appropriate, and I think that standard is what drove the timing of these PDS updates (it went live on 9/1).

Valvoline was one of the few companies that gave us NOACK loss information, but that seems to be gone now.
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#4515134 - 09/13/17 12:37 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
SonofJoe Offline


Registered: 07/23/16
Posts: 1052
Loc: Europe
I see the CCS & Pour Point data has changed from specific to generic.

TBH, this level of description is nigh on useless. They might as well publish no numbers whatsoever and say 'just trust us, it'll all be okay'.

Shame that they've gone over to The Dark Side when then used to be such a shining light.

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#4515295 - 09/13/17 03:16 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4429
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Yup, these numbers now just say "we meet the spec" with no real data.
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#4515512 - 09/13/17 07:35 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Bitog needs to create a forum of shame to spotlight these types of practices
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#4515564 - 09/13/17 08:34 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Carbon12 Online   content


Registered: 03/10/15
Posts: 199
Loc: MO
I'm sure it will do no good, but I complained about the product information sheets through their website.

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#4515618 - 09/13/17 09:20 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
BrocLuno Offline


Registered: 09/06/15
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PQIA will give us some number as they test these oils ...
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#4516021 - 09/14/17 10:52 AM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Carbon12]
rollinpete Online   content


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 461
Loc: West Ma.
Originally Posted By: Carbon12
I'm sure it will do no good, but I complained about the product information sheets through their website.


I sent them an email also, asking in a nice way they give us at least the same info on the previous PI sheets...Told them i'm a bitog forum reader smile
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#4516305 - 09/14/17 04:49 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: rollinpete]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4474
Loc: Down Under
Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Originally Posted By: Carbon12
I'm sure it will do no good, but I complained about the product information sheets through their website.


I sent them an email also, asking in a nice way they give us at least the same info on the previous PI sheets...Told them i'm a bitog forum reader smile


Good work mate.
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#4516473 - 09/14/17 07:58 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Carbon12 Online   content


Registered: 03/10/15
Posts: 199
Loc: MO
Here is the reply I got from Valvoline:

Valvoline is in the process of restructuring how our PI Sheets are presented. The goal is to have the same information on all of the PI Sheets for each product. This effort will take some time. Right now the new format is not perfect and we will continue to work to make it better. Thank you for being our customer and please contact us if additional information is ever needed.

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#4516639 - 09/14/17 11:01 PM Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Carbon12]
rollinpete Online   content


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 461
Loc: West Ma.
They haven't sent me anything but if and when they do i'll post it...
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97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive183k miles
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Fram xg8a, Fram CA8141

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