Well after a promising start the battery was down to 615 CCA last night. Temp is 59F. The BatteryMinder 2012 has been running constantly since I moved the battery into the basement.
battery sulfation
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the numbers are temperature-dependent.
desulfation takes a LONG time. The batteries I pulled from the recycling center years ago---- I couldn't tell which ones were going to take until at least 4 weeks. And then it was about 10 weeks total to get those that were revivable to a point were they could be used.
and that was with a desulfator that was probably a little more potent than the standard battery charger add-on.
desulfation takes a LONG time. The batteries I pulled from the recycling center years ago---- I couldn't tell which ones were going to take until at least 4 weeks. And then it was about 10 weeks total to get those that were revivable to a point were they could be used.
and that was with a desulfator that was probably a little more potent than the standard battery charger add-on.
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Originally Posted By: meep
the numbers are temperature-dependent.
desulfation takes a LONG time. The batteries I pulled from the recycling center years ago---- I couldn't tell which ones were going to take until at least 4 weeks. And then it was about 10 weeks total to get those that were revivable to a point were they could be used.
and that was with a desulfator that was probably a little more potent than the standard battery charger add-on.
Yes, I realize the numbers are temp dependent, but I assume within a day the temp of the battery had stabilized at around 59F since its in a basement that gets spill over heat from a boiler.
I guess I might expect it not to go up, but it seems to have gone down.
the numbers are temperature-dependent.
desulfation takes a LONG time. The batteries I pulled from the recycling center years ago---- I couldn't tell which ones were going to take until at least 4 weeks. And then it was about 10 weeks total to get those that were revivable to a point were they could be used.
and that was with a desulfator that was probably a little more potent than the standard battery charger add-on.
Yes, I realize the numbers are temp dependent, but I assume within a day the temp of the battery had stabilized at around 59F since its in a basement that gets spill over heat from a boiler.
I guess I might expect it not to go up, but it seems to have gone down.
Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: meep
the numbers are temperature-dependent.
desulfation takes a LONG time. The batteries I pulled from the recycling center years ago---- I couldn't tell which ones were going to take until at least 4 weeks. And then it was about 10 weeks total to get those that were revivable to a point were they could be used.
and that was with a desulfator that was probably a little more potent than the standard battery charger add-on.
Yes, I realize the numbers are temp dependent, but I assume within a day the temp of the battery had stabilized at around 59F since its in a basement that gets spill over heat from a boiler.
I guess I might expect it not to go up, but it seems to have gone down.
Hello. Sorry to post on old thread.
Want to know the result of BatteryMinder.
I'm considerring BatteryMinder 1500/1510 vs PulseTech PowerPlus. (yes charger vs on board). But want to know which one is more effective... Or both not effective at all.
Planning for batteries that daily driven, it's volt after overnight is 12.4 volt, batteries age less than 2 years old.
TIA,
singachu
Originally Posted By: meep
the numbers are temperature-dependent.
desulfation takes a LONG time. The batteries I pulled from the recycling center years ago---- I couldn't tell which ones were going to take until at least 4 weeks. And then it was about 10 weeks total to get those that were revivable to a point were they could be used.
and that was with a desulfator that was probably a little more potent than the standard battery charger add-on.
Yes, I realize the numbers are temp dependent, but I assume within a day the temp of the battery had stabilized at around 59F since its in a basement that gets spill over heat from a boiler.
I guess I might expect it not to go up, but it seems to have gone down.
Hello. Sorry to post on old thread.
Want to know the result of BatteryMinder.
I'm considerring BatteryMinder 1500/1510 vs PulseTech PowerPlus. (yes charger vs on board). But want to know which one is more effective... Or both not effective at all.
Planning for batteries that daily driven, it's volt after overnight is 12.4 volt, batteries age less than 2 years old.
TIA,
singachu
The question seems to be will a Battery Desulfator Recover or Extend the Life of Lead Acid Batteries?
Simple question complicated answer.
I am the product development manager for Battery Extra and I will try to answer as succinctly as possible.
Sulphate crystal build up leads to over 70% of premature failure of lead acid batteries. However all batteries wear out over time and no device can stop that happening.
Over the last 30 years or so battery manufactures have made great strides in combatting sulphate build up and improving the life span of their batteries, and in ideal circumstances, proper maintenance and correct charging, sulphation should not be a problem. However we do not live in a perfect world and sulphate build up remains by far the major cause of battery failure.
Around 25 years ago a simple device that created high voltage pulse sent to the battery was developed, called a pulse generator or battery desulfator. This, in practice, created an uncontrolled overcharge, so over time these high voltage pulses damaged the battery plates. This negated the positive effect. They provide a Short-term solution, but long-term damage.
At the same time alternative solution were considered and experimentation showed that if a frequency pulse was sent to the battery it could break down the sulphate build up if the correct frequency could be achieved, however different frequencies were required for different sizes of crystal that built up on the plates. So the devices using the single frequency method are hit and miss, some work some worthless.
What was needed was a device that would work over a range of frequencies, voltages and size of battery. Until the last few years building this type of device was very expensive (in excess of $2,000) and large (the size of an old style video player). Recent dramatic drops in the size and cost of components has allowed companies to produce small reasonable prices products able to clean the plates of batteries.
A small number of manufactures around the world now produce products that can clean the plates of old batteries and stop the sulphate build-up on new batteries, so recovering them or keeping new batteries clear of the build-up. In effect recovering many old batteries and extend the life of any battery that is not charged or maintained in the correct way. This is ALL they do and is the only thing responsible manufactures claim that their desulfators can do, they cannot recover batteries with any internal damage, shorted cells or AGM batteries that have dried out.
In conclusion modern multi frequency desulfators are not a magic bullet that will repair all faulty batteries, but they can significantly extend the life of your lead acid batteries, and recover a large proportion of batteries that are sulphated and would otherwise be scrapped. This will greatly reduce you replacement battery costs, which is not insignificant on applications like solar storage batteries, ride on golf carts, fork trucks, large boats and motor homes.
The Battery Extra desulfator range covers lead acid batteries and battery banks from 12 to 120 volts and up to 3,000Ah in capacity. All carry a 60 day 100% refund guarantee and a 3 year warrantee. This allows a user sufficient time to try our product and if it does not work for them to return it to us with no financial penalty.
Over the last few years Battery Extra has become the leading supplier of specialist lead acid battery restoration and maintenance equipment, with thousands of customers worldwide. Our desulfator products are specific to the maintenance and life extension of those customers’ batteries and we have testimonials from users in many fields, you can find some of these on our testimonials page at www.recovermybatteries.com
Simple question complicated answer.
I am the product development manager for Battery Extra and I will try to answer as succinctly as possible.
Sulphate crystal build up leads to over 70% of premature failure of lead acid batteries. However all batteries wear out over time and no device can stop that happening.
Over the last 30 years or so battery manufactures have made great strides in combatting sulphate build up and improving the life span of their batteries, and in ideal circumstances, proper maintenance and correct charging, sulphation should not be a problem. However we do not live in a perfect world and sulphate build up remains by far the major cause of battery failure.
Around 25 years ago a simple device that created high voltage pulse sent to the battery was developed, called a pulse generator or battery desulfator. This, in practice, created an uncontrolled overcharge, so over time these high voltage pulses damaged the battery plates. This negated the positive effect. They provide a Short-term solution, but long-term damage.
At the same time alternative solution were considered and experimentation showed that if a frequency pulse was sent to the battery it could break down the sulphate build up if the correct frequency could be achieved, however different frequencies were required for different sizes of crystal that built up on the plates. So the devices using the single frequency method are hit and miss, some work some worthless.
What was needed was a device that would work over a range of frequencies, voltages and size of battery. Until the last few years building this type of device was very expensive (in excess of $2,000) and large (the size of an old style video player). Recent dramatic drops in the size and cost of components has allowed companies to produce small reasonable prices products able to clean the plates of batteries.
A small number of manufactures around the world now produce products that can clean the plates of old batteries and stop the sulphate build-up on new batteries, so recovering them or keeping new batteries clear of the build-up. In effect recovering many old batteries and extend the life of any battery that is not charged or maintained in the correct way. This is ALL they do and is the only thing responsible manufactures claim that their desulfators can do, they cannot recover batteries with any internal damage, shorted cells or AGM batteries that have dried out.
In conclusion modern multi frequency desulfators are not a magic bullet that will repair all faulty batteries, but they can significantly extend the life of your lead acid batteries, and recover a large proportion of batteries that are sulphated and would otherwise be scrapped. This will greatly reduce you replacement battery costs, which is not insignificant on applications like solar storage batteries, ride on golf carts, fork trucks, large boats and motor homes.
The Battery Extra desulfator range covers lead acid batteries and battery banks from 12 to 120 volts and up to 3,000Ah in capacity. All carry a 60 day 100% refund guarantee and a 3 year warrantee. This allows a user sufficient time to try our product and if it does not work for them to return it to us with no financial penalty.
Over the last few years Battery Extra has become the leading supplier of specialist lead acid battery restoration and maintenance equipment, with thousands of customers worldwide. Our desulfator products are specific to the maintenance and life extension of those customers’ batteries and we have testimonials from users in many fields, you can find some of these on our testimonials page at www.recovermybatteries.com
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