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#4461444 - 07/17/17 07:17 AM Mobil One Extended Performance filter
buzzy3 Offline


Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 13
Loc: Northeast
I know...another oil filter question wink

I'm trying to make an educated decision about what oil filter to use in my 2017 Ford Powerstroke. I seem to recall a study that detailed micron performance ratings and flow rates for filters, but can no longer find it.

Some say that the Mobil one is a great filter, and then I find reports saying that they are junk and have lousy flow rates etc.

Where, or how, can I best determine if this is really a good filter. I know that they are made by Champion and that the warranty comes from Champion.

I am not interested in extended drains, and will be using Valvoline blue 5-40 (cold weather area).

Thanks!

Buzz

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#4461456 - 07/17/17 07:35 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: buzzy3]
beanoil Offline


Registered: 10/17/04
Posts: 2811
Loc: Midwest, Illinois
You want a Donaldson P502503.
Excellent specs, crossfilters.com has them 3 for 37.00.
VPB 5w40 is an excellent choice, but not required. Especially since you do not intend on extended drains.
The VPB 15w40 conventional is a stout oil that is also on Ford's blessed list, and will serve you well right down to 20 degrees. Depends on where you are in the Northeast as to whether that could work for you.
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#4461459 - 07/17/17 07:43 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: buzzy3]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7226
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
They were pretty good, but when they started using the suffix "A" part numbers, the quality seems less good. There are plenty of better choices-Wix Gold/NAPA, Fram Ultra, even Motorcraft.
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#4461479 - 07/17/17 08:03 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: buzzy3]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: buzzy3
I know...another oil filter question wink

I'm trying to make an educated decision about what oil filter to use in my 2017 Ford Powerstroke. I seem to recall a study that detailed micron performance ratings and flow rates for filters, but can no longer find it.

Some say that the Mobil one is a great filter, and then I find reports saying that they are junk and have lousy flow rates etc.

Where, or how, can I best determine if this is really a good filter. I know that they are made by Champion and that the warranty comes from Champion.

I am not interested in extended drains, and will be using Valvoline blue 5-40 (cold weather area).

Thanks!

Buzz


The Ford Motorcraft oil filters provide excellent filtration and are economically priced...why pay more ?

https://www.powerstrokediesel.com/docs/DieselFilterOilReferenceSheet.pdf


Edited by ArcticDriver (07/17/17 08:05 AM)
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#4461504 - 07/17/17 08:24 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: bullwinkle]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 1996
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
They were pretty good, but when they started using the suffix "A" part numbers, the quality seems less good. There are plenty of better choices-Wix Gold/NAPA, Fram Ultra, even Motorcraft.


Fram Ultra not available for the 6.7L TurboDiesel Powerstroke V8 here.
Fortunately, the Motorcraft oil filter is a Fram Ultra look-alike. It has the all-glass-fiber media and silicon ADBV wanted. Similar filtration efficiency as an Ultra would be.

100% synthetic glass fiber filtration media is the key performance element, as it holds more dirt, filters better. Motorcraft all the way here.

Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
The Ford Motorcraft oil filters provide excellent filtration and are economically priced...why pay more ?
https://www.powerstrokediesel.com/docs/DieselFilterOilReferenceSheet.pdf

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#4461523 - 07/17/17 08:49 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: buzzy3]
ARCOgraphite Online   content


Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 11653
Loc: N.H, U.S.A.
Not for your truck, but M1EP filter ( which is a well made Champion labs - the reason I bought it) Was one of 3 good filters for NISSAN applications. Nissan service replacement CHINA filters are not up to par and can damage your engine, and the Mexican GONHER are so so ( Ive had an ADBV "expire" prematurely). I will not commant on filter choice for the Ford Diesel, But you Nissan guys listyen up and put the upsized V* truck filter on your car. The Fram Toughguard is a good choice too. The Honda racing pcx004 was best but at 14 bucks not worth it for me - maybe if I had a 370Z but not on the 2014 "mother-lady" rogue.


Edited by ARCOgraphite (07/17/17 08:49 AM)
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#4461545 - 07/17/17 09:22 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: buzzy3]
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Registered: 03/11/12
Posts: 998
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: buzzy3
I know...another oil filter question wink

I'm trying to make an educated decision about what oil filter to use in my 2017 Ford Powerstroke. I seem to recall a study that detailed micron performance ratings and flow rates for filters, but can no longer find it.

Some say that the Mobil one is a great filter, and then I find reports saying that they are junk and have lousy flow rates etc.

Where, or how, can I best determine if this is really a good filter. I know that they are made by Champion and that the warranty comes from Champion.

I am not interested in extended drains, and will be using Valvoline blue 5-40 (cold weather area).

Thanks!

Buzz

Its a good filter. I ran 1 year on one on the truck and it held up. Didnt notice any difference in oil pressure. I have a mechanical gauge.
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#4461554 - 07/17/17 09:29 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: buzzy3]
TheBeaz Offline


Registered: 07/14/17
Posts: 22
Loc: MN, USA
The M1 filter is good but If your looking for a good aftermarket filter (not including "top of the line" ones like Royal purple or Amsoil) I would go with Autozones STP Extended Life as it is one the only ones that has both silicon gaskets and anti-drain back valve, an actual metal pressure spring instead of a leaf spring and, good heavy duty construction with filtration materialwhich the claim has 99% efficiency over 10,000 miles. Its all shown in this video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvUNXv5Bg0

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#4461566 - 07/17/17 09:44 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: ARCOgraphite]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I will not commant on filter choice for the Ford Diesel,..


Now my curiosity is piqued.
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#4461586 - 07/17/17 10:02 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: buzzy3]
Bgallagher Offline


Registered: 04/17/12
Posts: 3159
Loc: Boston, MA
I got a good deal on them from RA and they seemed to work nicely on an old Equinox I had. I have a few left that we are using in my FIL's boat (4.3 GM engine.) I haven't had any issues besides cost.
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#4461662 - 07/17/17 11:27 AM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: ArcticDriver]
ARCOgraphite Online   content


Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 11653
Loc: N.H, U.S.A.
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I will not commant on filter choice for the Ford Diesel,..


Now my curiosity is piqued.
No experience with the newer ford diesels, and I would assume that this is a large capacity filter given the application, not like Nissan passengers cars with a "hamster in the palm" sized "faux" oil filter - I would have been upset if my lowly Chevy 1500 W/T truck external framerail FUEL filter was the size of this Nissan oil filter.

You FORD truck guys have at it smile
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#4461765 - 07/17/17 12:47 PM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: E150GT]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 5358
Loc: Texas/International
This one ran 10k - all internals in good shape:
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#4462027 - 07/17/17 04:27 PM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: oil_film_movies]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7226
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
They were pretty good, but when they started using the suffix "A" part numbers, the quality seems less good. There are plenty of better choices-Wix Gold/NAPA, Fram Ultra, even Motorcraft.


Fram Ultra not available for the 6.7L TurboDiesel Powerstroke V8 here.
Fortunately, the Motorcraft oil filter is a Fram Ultra look-alike. It has the all-glass-fiber media and silicon ADBV wanted. Similar filtration efficiency as an Ultra would be.

100% synthetic glass fiber filtration media is the key performance element, as it holds more dirt, filters better. Motorcraft all the way here.

Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
The Ford Motorcraft oil filters provide excellent filtration and are economically priced...why pay more ?
https://www.powerstrokediesel.com/docs/DieselFilterOilReferenceSheet.pdf
Dang-you're right, I was thinking of the older PSDs. I agree that Motorcraft is the best value, though.
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#4462065 - 07/17/17 05:11 PM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: ARCOgraphite]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I will not commant on filter choice for the Ford Diesel,..


Now my curiosity is piqued.
No experience with the newer ford diesels, and I would assume that this is a large capacity filter given the application, not like Nissan passengers cars with a "hamster in the palm" sized "faux" oil filter - I would have been upset if my lowly Chevy 1500 W/T truck external framerail FUEL filter was the size of this Nissan oil filter.

You FORD truck guys have at it smile


Thanks.
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#4462112 - 07/17/17 05:49 PM Re: Mobil One Extended Performance filter [Re: oil_film_movies]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 5467
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Fram Ultra not available for the 6.7L TurboDiesel Powerstroke V8 here.


Does Wix make their XP filter for your application?

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