Tractor calls for Ambra GR 9 grease...

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My newest tractor calls for Ambra GR 9 grease for pretty much everything. https://www.pli-petronas.com/uk/products...mbra/ambra-gr-9 Here is a link.

I am a valvoline synpower guy where its applicable and have a red tube from Lucas as well. I dont see Ambra on the shelf anywhere around me. What would be an acceptable substitute?

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/gr...code=GPOR2CR-EA

http://www.valvoline.com/our-products/grease-gear-oil/synpower-synthetic-grease

I dont remember what the lucas red tube is mineral wise but IIRC it was highly regarded on this forum. Are any of those 3 compatible with the factory grease? I'd like something synthetic. The Ambra grease is a Lithium Calcium Soap grease.
 
Grease discussions here usually end up with people suggesting their favorite, without much technical discussion. There's so many options available and different working conditions that it is difficult for others to make recommendations. Having said that, my comments will be very general also. I'm commenting because I am curious about the Ambra lithium/calcium base. Probably the only place to find the Ambra GR9 will be at New Holland dealers. It's very odd that the Ambra is both Lithium AND Calcium based. I have never seen that. It is usually one or the other in the U.S. and a Google search shows it to be mostly a European product.

The Amsoil product you linked is well regarded here for outdoor industrial equipment. My limited knowledge of grease would make me nervous to use it in wheel and axle bearings because of the 5% moly content. Some believe that the high moly might cause the bearings to slide rather than rotate.

I do not get the idea that Lucas grease is held up to be anything special here. Be careful of internet amplification. Your Valvolene choice (Lithium Complex) should work well, unless you need something for more extreme conditions, as described below. Lithium complex seems to be one of the most compatible products available and is one of the reasons I choose to use it : http://machinerylubrication.com/Read/1865/grease-compatibility

My workplace tractors only get about 100 hours per year. They are stored in barns and rarely work in extreme conditions of rain, dirt, and mud. I chose to stay with the popular lithium complex grease ( http://machinerylubrication.com/Read/28381/grease-lithium-production-resistance ). If you have extreme conditions, then you should consider a grease to meet those conditions. Many here prefer Schaeffer or Amsoil products for extreme off road use and a search here will lead you to numerous discussions and product preferences.

Just some general information to get you started. My first sentences above explain why I hesitate to recommend a specific grease. You already have some biases of brand likeability. Try to keep an open mind. Sorry I cannot help much at all.
 
Lithium calcium grease is nothing uncommon here (in EU)... Fuchs renolit bfx for an example
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Lithium calcium grease is here when you want to avoid washout from water... It sticks better then normal lithium grease...
 
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Grease discussions here usually end up with people suggesting their favorite, without much technical discussion. There's so many options available and different working conditions that it is difficult for others to make recommendations. Having said that, my comments will be very general also. I'm commenting because I am curious about the Ambra lithium/calcium base. Probably the only place to find the Ambra GR9 will be at New Holland dealers. It's very odd that the Ambra is both Lithium AND Calcium based. I have never seen that. It is usually one or the other in the U.S. and a Google search shows it to be mostly a European product.

The Amsoil product you linked is well regarded here for outdoor industrial equipment. My limited knowledge of grease would make me nervous to use it in wheel and axle bearings because of the 5% moly content. Some believe that the high moly might cause the bearings to slide rather than rotate.

I do not get the idea that Lucas grease is held up to be anything special here. Be careful of internet amplification. Your Valvolene choice (Lithium Complex) should work well, unless you need something for more extreme conditions, as described below. Lithium complex seems to be one of the most compatible products available and is one of the reasons I choose to use it : http://machinerylubrication.com/Read/1865/grease-compatibility

My workplace tractors only get about 100 hours per year. They are stored in barns and rarely work in extreme conditions of rain, dirt, and mud. I chose to stay with the popular lithium complex grease ( http://machinerylubrication.com/Read/28381/grease-lithium-production-resistance ). If you have extreme conditions, then you should consider a grease to meet those conditions. Many here prefer Schaeffer or Amsoil products for extreme off road use and a search here will lead you to numerous discussions and product preferences.

Just some general information to get you started. My first sentences above explain why I hesitate to recommend a specific grease. You already have some biases of brand likeability. Try to keep an open mind. Sorry I cannot help much at all.


Thank you for replying. I did not mean to convey a brand preference, more of "that's what is in my main grease gun for my truck chassis" If the Valvoline SynPower is compatible with the agra lithium calcium complex that would work well since that grease gun is always in my toolbox. There is an amsoil guy closeby here is why I posted asking about the amsoil grease. I would love to only have 1 grease gun for farm stuff (tractors, implements) but not sure that's going to happen
 
If you look at the grease compatibility chart I linked to above, you can see that there are different types of lithium and calcium, and that some of them do not play well together. It seems that lithium complex is one of the most compatible types available, so it "seems" that your Valvolene choice "should" be a safer choice. But who really knows? Different charts show different things. I'm just an internet warrior.

I also wonder if the compatibility worry is of much significance in most tractor applications. I'm sure one should be really careful in bearing application like wheels, axles, heavy duty gears, etc.. But, in the tractor linkages where you can easily purge them with multiple grease applications, I wonder if there is any worry at all?

I wish we had some industry experts chime in here.


When you look up the New Holland products link, their greases look very generic and don't really play up the calcium component: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0ahUKEwjcyuXFr97TAhWk6oMKHTmYBfAQFgg_MAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpartstore.agriculture.newholland.com%2Fus%2Findex.php%3Ftarget%3Dpages%26mode%3Dgetfileattachment%26ns%3D%2Fobject_attachments%26fn%3D1323806738_CNH-1015_MaintProducts_NH_r29_LR.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFaDofYITlzXZ3ImcNtcNjgwlZCwA&cad=rja

- Multi purpose (usually lithium hydrostearate in the U.S.) not good for disc brake temps.
- EP/Higher Temp (LIthium Complex)
- Higher EP (moly @ usually 3%, occassionally higher)
- Synthetic - to appease those who like "synthetic".
 
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