Side to side would be transverse mounted and in this class that would be a big NO from me. Just another cute-ute pretending to be an SUV.
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I see are two white SUVs... And that's where the similarities end.
I'll take the VW. Better styling, better driving dynamics, more interior space, better build quality, and I'd put good money down that it'll last longer and with less issues than that FCA P.O.S.
Yes as WK2 sells 300K units a year to 15K for VW LOL
Does VW have 390 HP, 485HP and 707 HP in their Atlas?
I see are two white SUVs... And that's where the similarities end.
I'll take the VW. Better styling, better driving dynamics, more interior space, better build quality, and I'd put good money down that it'll last longer and with less issues than that FCA P.O.S.
Yes as WK2 sells 300K units a year to 15K for VW LOL
Does VW have 390 HP, 485HP and 707 HP in their Atlas?
HOW DARE VW MAKE A CHRYSLER COPY!!!!
Oh nevermind.
Anyway, I don't think the Alas is really copying the JGC. Meh, not quite. I think the Honda CRV redesign was cribbing the Mitsubishi Outlander. Or that Audi was cribbing Hyundai. But at this point all "SUV/Crossovers" are basically in the same boat as all manufacturers do not want to stand out as sales is all about being bland.
Oh nevermind.
Anyway, I don't think the Alas is really copying the JGC. Meh, not quite. I think the Honda CRV redesign was cribbing the Mitsubishi Outlander. Or that Audi was cribbing Hyundai. But at this point all "SUV/Crossovers" are basically in the same boat as all manufacturers do not want to stand out as sales is all about being bland.
Originally Posted By: FutureDoc
HOW DARE VW MAKE A CHRYSLER COPY!!!!
Oh nevermind.
Anyway, I don't think the Alas is really copying the JGC. Meh, not quite. I think the Honda CRV redesign was cribbing the Mitsubishi Outlander. Or that Audi was cribbing Hyundai. But at this point all "SUV/Crossovers" are basically in the same boat as all manufacturers do not want to stand out as sales is all about being bland.
I see Nissan Rogue in the side of the Atlas.
HOW DARE VW MAKE A CHRYSLER COPY!!!!
Oh nevermind.
Anyway, I don't think the Alas is really copying the JGC. Meh, not quite. I think the Honda CRV redesign was cribbing the Mitsubishi Outlander. Or that Audi was cribbing Hyundai. But at this point all "SUV/Crossovers" are basically in the same boat as all manufacturers do not want to stand out as sales is all about being bland.
I see Nissan Rogue in the side of the Atlas.
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Longitudinally mounted is side to side
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/automotive/2018-volkswagen-atlas-like-an-open-book-on-america-588896
One of the pictures has the VR6 and it's in there sideways.
Nope, longitudinally is ALONG the major axis...Transverse is across ways.
Longitudinally mounted is side to side
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/automotive/2018-volkswagen-atlas-like-an-open-book-on-america-588896
One of the pictures has the VR6 and it's in there sideways.
Nope, longitudinally is ALONG the major axis...Transverse is across ways.
I call it flattery. Unspoken compliments among competition in the automotive industry.
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
Longitudinally mounted is side to side
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/automotive/2018-volkswagen-atlas-like-an-open-book-on-america-588896
One of the pictures has the VR6 and it's in there sideways.
Nope, longitudinally is ALONG the major axis...Transverse is across ways.
I can't believe we are arguing over this. It's pretty clear that longitude is a transverse engine in this case. VW says it's longitudinally mounted, engine bay pictures show it is transverse. Latitude is N-S which is typically referred to a front-back engine configuration.
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Longitudinally mounted is side to side
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/automotive/2018-volkswagen-atlas-like-an-open-book-on-america-588896
One of the pictures has the VR6 and it's in there sideways.
Nope, longitudinally is ALONG the major axis...Transverse is across ways.
I can't believe we are arguing over this. It's pretty clear that longitude is a transverse engine in this case. VW says it's longitudinally mounted, engine bay pictures show it is transverse. Latitude is N-S which is typically referred to a front-back engine configuration.
I think Miller88 is just trying to point out the inconsistency between what's noted on VW's website (longitudinal) and reality (transverse).
This article confirms it's a transverse setup, which all the engine bay photos confirm:
http://www.tflcar.com/2017/04/2018-volkswagen-atlas-sel-premium-awd-test-drive-review/
After all, the Atlas is built on the MQB platform, which assumes transverse engine layout. Had it been a longitudinal setup, it would have been built on the MLB platform instead.
This article confirms it's a transverse setup, which all the engine bay photos confirm:
http://www.tflcar.com/2017/04/2018-volkswagen-atlas-sel-premium-awd-test-drive-review/
After all, the Atlas is built on the MQB platform, which assumes transverse engine layout. Had it been a longitudinal setup, it would have been built on the MLB platform instead.
Yeah I'll take the GC with the 5.7L V8 any day.
For what it's worth, I own a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel (bought new, currently have 65K miles on it, towing, Jeep Jamboree's, daily driver) and a 2017 Audi Q7 (FULLY loaded 3.0T). They both are really nice, honestly feel like the same class of vehicle. Each do some things better than the other, but I sincerely love both.
Drove Atlas recently. Probably MOST practical vehicle in the segment. VW really did good job when it comes to space. The trick with second row and folding with child seat is really, really good. I was thinking to get it once BMWs warranty expires which would fall in time for second kid. BMW is great so far, but with one kid on long trips (1000+ miles) there is just enough space for three of us. With second kid it might become a problem.
Atlas would solve that problem. That thing is so well designed inside.
HOWEVER, VR6 is a huge miss! It is so underpowered that it is ridiculous. I do not want to imagine driving that with 4-5 people inside over Rocky Mountains.
Chinese market is getting for same vehicle 2.5 V6 Turbo. Why that is not available in the U.S. is a question, and I think answer is that VW wants to offer as simple as possible engine for the buyers in this segment who usually know that car has 4 wheels and that is it.
Atlas would solve that problem. That thing is so well designed inside.
HOWEVER, VR6 is a huge miss! It is so underpowered that it is ridiculous. I do not want to imagine driving that with 4-5 people inside over Rocky Mountains.
Chinese market is getting for same vehicle 2.5 V6 Turbo. Why that is not available in the U.S. is a question, and I think answer is that VW wants to offer as simple as possible engine for the buyers in this segment who usually know that car has 4 wheels and that is it.
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
Why that is not available in the U.S. is a question, and I think answer is that VW wants to offer as simple as possible engine for the buyers in this segment who usually know that car has 4 wheels and that is it.
Vw does not want to steal sales away from Audi Q7.
Why that is not available in the U.S. is a question, and I think answer is that VW wants to offer as simple as possible engine for the buyers in this segment who usually know that car has 4 wheels and that is it.
Vw does not want to steal sales away from Audi Q7.
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
Why that is not available in the U.S. is a question, and I think answer is that VW wants to offer as simple as possible engine for the buyers in this segment who usually know that car has 4 wheels and that is it.
Vw does not want to steal sales away from Audi Q7.
Yes, definiately reason. Though VW cheapened Atlas to the level of Pilot, Highlander and similar vehicles (OK when cleaning baby vomit etc.).
However, that VR6 is definiately stranger in the vehicle. It is for sure smoothest running V6 due to angle, but still....
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Why that is not available in the U.S. is a question, and I think answer is that VW wants to offer as simple as possible engine for the buyers in this segment who usually know that car has 4 wheels and that is it.
Vw does not want to steal sales away from Audi Q7.
Yes, definiately reason. Though VW cheapened Atlas to the level of Pilot, Highlander and similar vehicles (OK when cleaning baby vomit etc.).
However, that VR6 is definiately stranger in the vehicle. It is for sure smoothest running V6 due to angle, but still....
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
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Agree, same s...
But, still, comparing to pick up truck? Not high bar.
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Ah, good ole JEEP:
Ah, good ole TOYOTA:
Agree, same s...
But, still, comparing to pick up truck? Not high bar.
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
Agree, same s...
But, still, comparing to pick up truck? Not high bar.
I'm pretty sure I saw a Ram truck in that Toyota video, that passed the test with no problems.
Agree, same s...
But, still, comparing to pick up truck? Not high bar.
I'm pretty sure I saw a Ram truck in that Toyota video, that passed the test with no problems.
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