Originally Posted By: stockrex
Originally Posted By: Skeet6
Originally Posted By: Ethan1
How do you imagine CarFax to operate?
My internet "snark" detector is going off...
I guess I was expecting if there were some kind of accident history or insurance claim it'd show up on there? I really don't know. I was trying to be helpful. Were you?
Mike B
Skeet, I am sorry, I think Ethan meant well, just did not come out right,
Carfax is worth the paper I wipe my chunky behind with.
I have used Carfax to look at ownership history of vehicles, which can't be hidden, well it can be if someone buys and resells without registering like a neighbor of my mine does.
Most people do their repairs off the books paying $$$, scary but true.
Plus in a brand new car the dealers will probably use their own body shop to repair.
And Yes, I agree with you, if you oppose you should propose
Carfax isn't even reliable on chain of ownership, much less collision or other body damage.
I bought a '97 Accord 5spd coupe in 2003 with around 60K for $5995.00. According to Carfax, the car had only one PO and had never been in an accident. According to the paperwork I found in the glovebox, the car had had two POs, one in Ohio and the other in Kentucky and had been repaired by a body shop courtesy of the owner's insurance. We owned the car for another 145K and thirteen years before I sold it, so all was well, but Carfax proved useless in finding either number of previous owners or damage history.
The car was delivered new from a Columbus area dealer, was then apparently private party sold to some guy in KY who then traded the car to a dealer in Fairfield, which then wholesaled the car to the little used car lot in Fairfield I bought it from.
Moral of the story is to check the glove box when buying a used car. It will often contain a wealth of information on the car's history.
The other moral is to save your time and money and ignore Carfax.
Show me the Carfax?
Yeah, right.
To the OP, yes, you do have a legitimate claim regardless of how the sales paperwork was worded.
You paid for a new vehicle, not one that had been damaged and incompletely repaired.
Contact the dealer principle directly and ask that your claims be addressed with both complete repairs as well as some rebate of what you paid for the vehicle, since its value was reduced by the damage.
If this fails, engage an attorney who specializes in lemon law and related matters.
They'll get it fixed for you and will also be able to extract their fee from the selling dealer.
Don't forget that this dealer knowingly screwed you in selling a damaged vehicle as factory new.