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Originally Posted By: PimTac
At this rate we should see a 0w-0 oil pretty soon.


or a 5w-4.... no reason the winter rating needs to be lower or equal to the summer rating.
 
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
How much thinner can it get? I mean for how long is this trend of reducing viscosity going to continue?


My idea for many years has been to use engine coolant as the lubricant...
 
Originally Posted By: THafeez
... "lifetime" oils by 2025. Complete with sealed engine and no dipstick.


I will drill a hole, drain it all out, and refill exclusively with 20w-50 just to tick 'em off.


My claim IS completely substantiated!
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
My idea for many years has been to use engine coolant as the lubricant...


Plenty of cars already spec coolant in their oil! Subarus, old Neons, the 3100/3400 GM engine...
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
How much thinner can it get? I mean for how long is this trend of reducing viscosity going to continue?


My idea for many years has been to use engine coolant as the lubricant...


or using engine oil as coolant... if you got a coolant leak towards the sump you don't want to solve
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You wouldn't need a thermostat anymore either
 
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Originally Posted By: Jetronic
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
How much thinner can it get? I mean for how long is this trend of reducing viscosity going to continue?


My idea for many years has been to use engine coolant as the lubricant...


or using engine oil as coolant... if you got a coolant leak towards the sump you don't want to solve
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You wouldn't need a thermostat anymore either


I worked on an oil cooled diesel engine many years ago. That is where I came up with the idea to use coolant as a lubricant. Oil is a horrible fluid to use as a coolant.
 
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Plenty of cars already spec coolant in their oil! Subarus, old Neons, the 3100/3400 GM engine...
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quite true
 
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
So when are negative SAE oils coming out?
I suppose Dr. Haas is excited about trying ot out in his ferrari
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Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
How on earth will a 0W16 (or below) ever meet a hot weather temperature spec of say 100 degrees F. ?
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
How much thinner can it get? I mean for how long is this trend of reducing viscosity going to continue?
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
How on earth will a 0W16 (or below) ever meet a hot weather temperature spec of say 100 degrees F. ?


I don't think it will be a problem. Synthetic oils will keep getting stronger and better. Engine efficiency will keep getting better as long as the combustion engine will still be mass produced (probably won't last much beyond maybe another 10-20 years max)

I can see future engines coming out using Koenigsegg's Camless Engine technology, thus further reducing the need for oil as lubrication. Oil will only be needed to Lube the Crank and pistons, so it won't be working hard at all, if you think about it.
 
Originally Posted By: Artem
... I can see future engines coming out using Koenigsegg's Camless Engine technology, thus further reducing the need for oil as lubrication. Oil will only be needed to Lube the Crank and pistons, so it won't be working hard at all, if you think about it.
I think it will still be exposed to blowby and the challenges it poses to engine oil.
 
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
How on earth will a 0W16 (or below) ever meet a hot weather temperature spec of say 100 degrees F. ?


I run M1 0-20 year round. I have run my engines in 109F temps with no problems.
 
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
So when are negative SAE oils coming out?


More likely 0W-0, 00W-0 etc., the way wire gauges are done.
 
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