Oil Sands Consume 28.8% of Canada's Natural Gas

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...Alberta’s oil sands operations accounted for 28.8% of Canadian natural gas demand in 2016, up from 11.8% in 2005, according to a new report by Canada’s National Energy Board (NEB)…

...Natural gas is largely used in the oil sands to generate steam for in situ oil production, and in situ growth has been the main driver behind increased oil sands demand for natural gas…

...An increasing number of cogeneration facilities in the oil sands use natural gas to produce heat and electricity for both project operations and for sale to the power grid...
 
they also produce millions of barrels a day of oil from it?

The oil production over tripled so of course the natural gas use tripled?
 
Awesome having all that nat gas available locally to produce all that dilbit for NA consumption.

What I call a win, win.

And with Keystone XL going ahead and Dakota Access flowing oil, the winning doesn't stop !
 
Cheap oil may be a boon to fuel thirsty Americans and their land barges. What's funny is that in economics you can usually see a zero sum gain if you look. Things that have not been making front page news have me somewhat worried. Venezuela is on the brink of civil war due to a failed socialist experiment that was propped up by high Brent crude prices. Saudi Arabia is trying frantically to diversify its economy because it can no longer afford the subsidies paid to prop up its citizens. Among the things they have to figure out is how to get people to work for a living in a place that had a standard of living supported by oil money and imported labor. Social unrest in Saudi Arabia has not been our friend in the past.

So, if expensive oil is bad and cheap oil is bad what is "good?"
 
I think we should celebrate another Pagan holiday.
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Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Cheap oil may be a boon to fuel thirsty Americans and their land barges. What's funny is that in economics you can usually see a zero sum gain if you look. Things that have not been making front page news have me somewhat worried. Venezuela is on the brink of civil war due to a failed socialist experiment that was propped up by high Brent crude prices. Saudi Arabia is trying frantically to diversify its economy because it can no longer afford the subsidies paid to prop up its citizens. Among the things they have to figure out is how to get people to work for a living in a place that had a standard of living supported by oil money and imported labor. Social unrest in Saudi Arabia has not been our friend in the past.

So, if expensive oil is bad and cheap oil is bad what is "good?"
Not that many Americans drive "land barges" any more. but if that's your perception, carry on with your prejudice. Perhaps you, in your wisdom, consider a Corolla a "land barge" a lot of Corollas and Camrys are sold here every year. Perhaps you begrudge us our Camrys and Accords.
 
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And, once again, a dissenting opinion requires an attack. Quintessential BITOG.

I use the term "land barges" to refer to anything larger than a compact car. That would include large pickups and SUVs. I should have stated it differently because, compared to the rest of the world, our vehicles tend to have significantly lower average fuel efficiency. It's been stated on this forum before that auto plants are being idled because in the shadow of low fuel prices Americans are buying larger vehicles - it happens like clockwork.

All I really meant to say is that an economic condition can be good for one part of the world yet bad for another. Buy whatever you want. It won't really make any difference except to your wallet. Americans like big vehicles. I don't think this is in dispute.

And, yes, I have prejudices, plenty of them. If anyone claims to have none they are lying.
 
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And, once again, a dissenting opinion requires an attack. Quintessential BITOG.

I use the term "land barges" to refer to anything larger than a compact car. That would include large pickups and SUVs. I should have stated it differently because, compared to the rest of the world, our vehicles tend to have significantly lower average fuel efficiency. It's been stated on this forum before that auto plants are being idled because in the shadow of low fuel prices Americans are buying larger vehicles - it happens like clockwork.

All I really meant to say is that an economic condition can be good for one part of the world yet bad for another. Buy whatever you want. It won't really make any difference except to your wallet. Americans like big vehicles. I don't think this is in dispute.

And, yes, I have prejudices, plenty of them. If anyone claims to have none they are lying.
Enjoy them, they're predictable. I enjoy the self proclaimed "innocent" calling folks liars at every opportunity.
 
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I just need to think harder before I post. I could have left out any references to Americans and their fuel consumption. It wouldn't have changed the point I was trying to make. And, yes, there is something about the confrontational nature of this forum that can be entertaining. I just don't seek to agitate. Raising emotional levels doesn't help. It generally just shuts down civil discourse. I guess it's part of the reason that peaceful protests are harder to keep peaceful. We're all so angry these days.
 
What do they do to remediate that after they are done stripping the oil out of it? Do they cover it back up with soil that is suitable for trees, grass or crops?
 
I don't get why there would be such current strong interest in tar sand oil. The global price of oil is currently below breakeven. That could be why they were so hot to get the pipelines completed. Maybe it becomes slightly profitable with reduced transportation costs. That still doesn't make them HIGHLY profitable.
 
Originally Posted By: DBMaster
I just need to think harder before I post. I could have left out any references to Americans and their fuel consumption. It wouldn't have changed the point I was trying to make. And, yes, there is something about the confrontational nature of this forum that can be entertaining. I just don't seek to agitate. Raising emotional levels doesn't help. It generally just shuts down civil discourse. I guess it's part of the reason that peaceful protests are harder to keep peaceful. We're all so angry these days.


Then why even post this stuff with references to Americans if you did not want to be confrontational or agitate?

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I guess it's part of the reason that peaceful protests are harder to keep peaceful. We're all so angry these days.


So you're promoting non-peaceful (violent) protests?

The only people that seem to get angry are anarchists within the population who cannot accept certain outcomes.
 
No, I am not promoting non-peaceful protest. I already apologized for the tone of my original post. I know better. I'm sure that no one else ever lets their words out before thinking them through thoroughly...
 
We're currently in a good place energy wise. Let's enjoy the moment. These times come and these times go. No need to hand wring either way but I do like this better of course. The incentives surrounding oil are going to be with us for a long time and we'll adapt as needed. We always do. As for why tar sands? Well, if it's unprofitable they won't be doing it for long so it must currently be profitable. The Europeans and the Far East have much more to worry about re Saudi, et al.
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar
Keeping politics, etc, out of it, these are some amazing (in many ways) photos:

http://www.businessinsider.com/keystone-xl-canada-oil-sands-photos-2017-1


That was a well done and informative article. I was expecting a simple hit piece (OMG Look at the rape of the Earth!!!!) but with the graphics and words the writer got close to an objective middle ground. I wish other journalists would do as well instead taking the lazy path.
 
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