2012 Accord PPPP 0w20 UOA metal flakes in oil...
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Nick1994
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I don't think you have anything to worry about. I doubt your engine is dying and only providing large pieces of metal, a UOA probably would have picked at least something up.
Yeah, I would see what happens after 1k miles. I would also strain the oil as it come out with a woman's nylon stocking. See what you catch, that will take the guess work out of trying to figure out what is in the pan.
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I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
I like that idea that SF0059 mentioned using a nylon stocking to strain the oil. A magnet would quickly tell if the flakes were iron/steel or aluminum.
It is interesting that there have been a few mentions here recently of posters with metal flakes in their oil or their oil filter.
It is interesting that there have been a few mentions here recently of posters with metal flakes in their oil or their oil filter.
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
Originally Posted By: gregk24
I had planned on changing the oil only (no filter) again in 1000 miles. If it is shedding metal, is 1000 miles enough time to accumulate enough to see in the drain pan?
I don't think 1,000 miles is long enough. Aside from an engine tear down and visual inspection of parts what else can you do if you see metal flakes? If you don't plan on tearing the engine down, I think I'd stick to your normal OCI and do another visual oil inspection and a UOA at the end of it.
I had planned on changing the oil only (no filter) again in 1000 miles. If it is shedding metal, is 1000 miles enough time to accumulate enough to see in the drain pan?
I don't think 1,000 miles is long enough. Aside from an engine tear down and visual inspection of parts what else can you do if you see metal flakes? If you don't plan on tearing the engine down, I think I'd stick to your normal OCI and do another visual oil inspection and a UOA at the end of it.
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Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
On PP?!? What a waste.
I get that the OP is antsy to pull a sample and see. But it may. E nothing and thus a waste. Big particles will settle faster. Its possible to just pull a sample part way.
But if metal particles are the question, doing a how without particle count is not worth much.
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
On PP?!? What a waste.
I get that the OP is antsy to pull a sample and see. But it may. E nothing and thus a waste. Big particles will settle faster. Its possible to just pull a sample part way.
But if metal particles are the question, doing a how without particle count is not worth much.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
On PP?!? What a waste.
I get that the OP is antsy to pull a sample and see. But it may. E nothing and thus a waste. Big particles will settle faster. Its possible to just pull a sample part way.
But if metal particles are the question, doing a how without particle count is not worth much.
As I mentioned earlier I change the oil every 6 months or 5K miles regardless. I hit 6 months and only had 3500 miles so out it went. It is worth spending $22 every 6 months to keep fresh oil in the sump. To each their own!
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
On PP?!? What a waste.
I get that the OP is antsy to pull a sample and see. But it may. E nothing and thus a waste. Big particles will settle faster. Its possible to just pull a sample part way.
But if metal particles are the question, doing a how without particle count is not worth much.
As I mentioned earlier I change the oil every 6 months or 5K miles regardless. I hit 6 months and only had 3500 miles so out it went. It is worth spending $22 every 6 months to keep fresh oil in the sump. To each their own!
Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Maybe I am ignorant here but one would think big particles would get ground down to smaller particles in an engine to be readable?
Silica particles maybe but I doubt metal ones would.
Maybe I am ignorant here but one would think big particles would get ground down to smaller particles in an engine to be readable?
Silica particles maybe but I doubt metal ones would.
...and the UOA came out great looking, as usual.
My question is: why were the visible metal flakes in the drained oil instead of in the oil filter? Also, it may be time for a magnetic drain plug.
JHZR2
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Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Maybe I am ignorant here but one would think big particles would get ground down to smaller particles in an engine to be readable?
Big particles would either settle and remain in stagnant areas of the sump, or be caught in the filter. The filter should be as/more telling than the drained oil.
Maybe I am ignorant here but one would think big particles would get ground down to smaller particles in an engine to be readable?
Big particles would either settle and remain in stagnant areas of the sump, or be caught in the filter. The filter should be as/more telling than the drained oil.
JHZR2
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Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
On PP?!? What a waste.
I get that the OP is antsy to pull a sample and see. But it may. E nothing and thus a waste. Big particles will settle faster. Its possible to just pull a sample part way.
But if metal particles are the question, doing a how without particle count is not worth much.
As I mentioned earlier I change the oil every 6 months or 5K miles regardless. I hit 6 months and only had 3500 miles so out it went. It is worth spending $22 every 6 months to keep fresh oil in the sump. To each their own!
No, I misread as if 3000 was a full OCI. I stand by the rest of the comments.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I'd wait longer to let it accumulate. I'd think 3,000 would be enough.
That's a full OCI
On PP?!? What a waste.
I get that the OP is antsy to pull a sample and see. But it may. E nothing and thus a waste. Big particles will settle faster. Its possible to just pull a sample part way.
But if metal particles are the question, doing a how without particle count is not worth much.
As I mentioned earlier I change the oil every 6 months or 5K miles regardless. I hit 6 months and only had 3500 miles so out it went. It is worth spending $22 every 6 months to keep fresh oil in the sump. To each their own!
No, I misread as if 3000 was a full OCI. I stand by the rest of the comments.
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