Wal-Mart undoubtedly makes less profit on it's house brand products vs the name brands and the vendors have a thin margin to boot.
SuperTech motor oil
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: UltrafanUK
Originally Posted By: UltrafanUK
LuckyStrike said:Any thoughts on SuperTech motor oil?
You get what you pay for from cheap oil and filters.
I always stick to major brand engine oil companies, partly because you know who has made the oil and that they do not make changes to its mix without changing the PDS, although such changes are rare.
[/quote]Define "Cheap oil".
Any oil that is so cheap it is purchased even if not needed to be added to a "stash" only to be given away or sold again at a later date.
In other words-typical BITOG hoarding.
BTW-I know that's not the answer your looking for-but I couldn't resist!
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We haven't had an ST thread in a good couple of weeks, so I guess that we're due for one.
ST is a cheaply formulated oil that just meets the claimed SAE grade standards at the W end as well as API SN.
There are better and cheaper store brand oils available.
Locally, RK's and Meijer's come to mind.
Name brand oils offer more costly add packs, lower volatility and better cold performance as a consequence of better basestock blends and higher virgin TBN.
In motor oil, as in everything else you buy, you do get a better product in return for the additional dollars you pay.
Tide costs more than Walmart's store brand detergent.
Guess which one will get your clothes cleaner.
ST meets the SAE grade specs as well as API SN.
Other oils go well beyond these minimums.
If good enough is good enough for you, then by all means use ST motor oil.
Given the cost of even a beater as well as fuel to run it as well as insurance to make it legally operable, motor oil is but a minor footnote in the cost of running any car.
Why try to save money on something where there isn't much to be saved?
ST is a cheaply formulated oil that just meets the claimed SAE grade standards at the W end as well as API SN.
There are better and cheaper store brand oils available.
Locally, RK's and Meijer's come to mind.
Name brand oils offer more costly add packs, lower volatility and better cold performance as a consequence of better basestock blends and higher virgin TBN.
In motor oil, as in everything else you buy, you do get a better product in return for the additional dollars you pay.
Tide costs more than Walmart's store brand detergent.
Guess which one will get your clothes cleaner.
ST meets the SAE grade specs as well as API SN.
Other oils go well beyond these minimums.
If good enough is good enough for you, then by all means use ST motor oil.
Given the cost of even a beater as well as fuel to run it as well as insurance to make it legally operable, motor oil is but a minor footnote in the cost of running any car.
Why try to save money on something where there isn't much to be saved?
I don't think there is anything wrong with ST, but I also don't think anything wrong with Pennzoil, Valvoline, Castrol, Mobil etc. So I continue to use oils other than ST.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
We haven't had an ST thread in a good couple of weeks, so I guess that we're due for one.
ST is a cheaply formulated oil that just meets the claimed SAE grade standards at the W end as well as API SN.
There are better and cheaper store brand oils available.
Locally, RK's and Meijer's come to mind.
Name brand oils offer more costly add packs, lower volatility and better cold performance as a consequence of better basestock blends and higher virgin TBN.
In motor oil, as in everything else you buy, you do get a better product in return for the additional dollars you pay.
Tide costs more than Walmart's store brand detergent.
Guess which one will get your clothes cleaner.
ST meets the SAE grade specs as well as API SN.
Other oils go well beyond these minimums.
If good enough is good enough for you, then by all means use ST motor oil.
Given the cost of even a beater as well as fuel to run it as well as insurance to make it legally operable, motor oil is but a minor footnote in the cost of running any car.
Why try to save money on something where there isn't much to be saved?
Because some small towns only have a Walmart and not the other stores you mentioned.
We haven't had an ST thread in a good couple of weeks, so I guess that we're due for one.
ST is a cheaply formulated oil that just meets the claimed SAE grade standards at the W end as well as API SN.
There are better and cheaper store brand oils available.
Locally, RK's and Meijer's come to mind.
Name brand oils offer more costly add packs, lower volatility and better cold performance as a consequence of better basestock blends and higher virgin TBN.
In motor oil, as in everything else you buy, you do get a better product in return for the additional dollars you pay.
Tide costs more than Walmart's store brand detergent.
Guess which one will get your clothes cleaner.
ST meets the SAE grade specs as well as API SN.
Other oils go well beyond these minimums.
If good enough is good enough for you, then by all means use ST motor oil.
Given the cost of even a beater as well as fuel to run it as well as insurance to make it legally operable, motor oil is but a minor footnote in the cost of running any car.
Why try to save money on something where there isn't much to be saved?
Because some small towns only have a Walmart and not the other stores you mentioned.
My uoa on the ST 15w40 showed it to be a great oil. But I still prefer a name brand so I'm not guessing it's quality. Although I'm overthinking this. Warren makes good stuff.
You use Super S though
Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
We haven't had an ST thread in a good couple of weeks, so I guess that we're due for one.
ST is a cheaply formulated oil that just meets the claimed SAE grade standards at the W end as well as API SN.
There are better and cheaper store brand oils available.
Locally, RK's and Meijer's come to mind.
Name brand oils offer more costly add packs, lower volatility and better cold performance as a consequence of better basestock blends and higher virgin TBN.
In motor oil, as in everything else you buy, you do get a better product in return for the additional dollars you pay.
Tide costs more than Walmart's store brand detergent.
Guess which one will get your clothes cleaner.
ST meets the SAE grade specs as well as API SN.
Other oils go well beyond these minimums.
If good enough is good enough for you, then by all means use ST motor oil.
Given the cost of even a beater as well as fuel to run it as well as insurance to make it legally operable, motor oil is but a minor footnote in the cost of running any car.
Why try to save money on something where there isn't much to be saved?
Because some small towns only have a Walmart and not the other stores you mentioned.
True but Walmart sells most major brands of oil so why use ST when you can purchase Mobil 1, Pennzoil, etc.... for cheap.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
We haven't had an ST thread in a good couple of weeks, so I guess that we're due for one.
ST is a cheaply formulated oil that just meets the claimed SAE grade standards at the W end as well as API SN.
There are better and cheaper store brand oils available.
Locally, RK's and Meijer's come to mind.
Name brand oils offer more costly add packs, lower volatility and better cold performance as a consequence of better basestock blends and higher virgin TBN.
In motor oil, as in everything else you buy, you do get a better product in return for the additional dollars you pay.
Tide costs more than Walmart's store brand detergent.
Guess which one will get your clothes cleaner.
ST meets the SAE grade specs as well as API SN.
Other oils go well beyond these minimums.
If good enough is good enough for you, then by all means use ST motor oil.
Given the cost of even a beater as well as fuel to run it as well as insurance to make it legally operable, motor oil is but a minor footnote in the cost of running any car.
Why try to save money on something where there isn't much to be saved?
Because some small towns only have a Walmart and not the other stores you mentioned.
True but Walmart sells most major brands of oil so why use ST when you can purchase Mobil 1, Pennzoil, etc.... for cheap.
Because the ST is the cheapest and that's what many shoppers look for when they need oil. I'd rather pay a few bucks more for something a little better just like most of the people on here.
Personally all my life I have used Valvoline, Mobil 1 and Pennzoil. All my engines on all the cars I have ever had have been spotless and looked brand new when I ended up getting rid of them. All had close to 200,000 miles on the clock.
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Originally Posted By: UltrafanUK
So do you think they check on an oils contents and performance after initial certification ??
Acea oddly enough are worse than API in enforcement terms, as its a self certification game. Their limits are slightly better due to race track use along what the Germans call an autobahn, but they are hopeless at enforcing any type of standards.
That's one big reason I stick to major brand oils only.
I know their competitors do.
You are a perfect example of someone who just makes stuff up with no technical or rational justification to support your statements.
Have you been on vacation lately or what? It's been a while.
So do you think they check on an oils contents and performance after initial certification ??
Acea oddly enough are worse than API in enforcement terms, as its a self certification game. Their limits are slightly better due to race track use along what the Germans call an autobahn, but they are hopeless at enforcing any type of standards.
That's one big reason I stick to major brand oils only.
I know their competitors do.
You are a perfect example of someone who just makes stuff up with no technical or rational justification to support your statements.
Have you been on vacation lately or what? It's been a while.
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Personally all my life I have used Valvoline, Mobil 1 and Pennzoil. All my engines on all the cars I have ever had have been spotless and looked brand new when I ended up getting rid of them. All had close to 200,000 miles on the clock.
What evidence do you have to show that all your engines wouldn't have looked exactly the same using Supertech oil?
Personally all my life I have used Valvoline, Mobil 1 and Pennzoil. All my engines on all the cars I have ever had have been spotless and looked brand new when I ended up getting rid of them. All had close to 200,000 miles on the clock.
What evidence do you have to show that all your engines wouldn't have looked exactly the same using Supertech oil?
I have used cheap house brand oils and more expensive name brands. I don't see any difference in wear metal particle counts. The little information that Blackstone labs has released show no significant difference in wear between brands. In my opinion expensive oils have no added benefits for the average driver so I keep the extra money in my pocket.
I used supertech syn oil up until I started getting clearance oil which is a ton cheaper than ST
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Personally all my life I have used Valvoline, Mobil 1 and Pennzoil. All my engines on all the cars I have ever had have been spotless and looked brand new when I ended up getting rid of them. All had close to 200,000 miles on the clock.
What evidence do you have to show that all your engines wouldn't have looked exactly the same using Supertech oil?
Well I know for a fact had I used cheap oil in those engines I would have had a lot of problems. Cars where a 1987 Ford tempo with the high output 4 cylinder and the other was a 2001 Pontiac grand am with the 3400 series v6. Point is I just don't use cheap oil. I'd rather pay a few dollars more for peace of mind. That's just me though. If you like ST oil then by all means use it.
Originally Posted By: Diesel16
Personally all my life I have used Valvoline, Mobil 1 and Pennzoil. All my engines on all the cars I have ever had have been spotless and looked brand new when I ended up getting rid of them. All had close to 200,000 miles on the clock.
What evidence do you have to show that all your engines wouldn't have looked exactly the same using Supertech oil?
Well I know for a fact had I used cheap oil in those engines I would have had a lot of problems. Cars where a 1987 Ford tempo with the high output 4 cylinder and the other was a 2001 Pontiac grand am with the 3400 series v6. Point is I just don't use cheap oil. I'd rather pay a few dollars more for peace of mind. That's just me though. If you like ST oil then by all means use it.
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ST is good stuff...it is my top off oil for the suv (usually 3-4 ounces after an oil change when not full); used it on and off in my metric bikes and scooters (10w-40 pcmo & 15w-40 hdeo); I would use it regularly in my suv if I wasn't under warranty (doesn't carry Chrysler MS-6395 certification)...
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