Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
(2) Toyota, Honda, and some other OEM filters are very poor at filtration
Toyota and Honda make good quality vehicles
Normally I would not reply, but I don't want to ignore your direct question, or the other guy asking for "studies" of filters:
- Toyota has built engines that sludged the oil and died as young as 25000 miles and led to a class-action lawsuit (U.S. and multiple States v. Toyota). They also had minivans where the sidedoor could randomly open (leading to a recall).
- I own 3 Hondas so I love the brand, but I recognize they made some major blunders. They make bad auto transmissions, bad VCM engines, bad belt-driven CVTs, and use bad batteries in their hybrids.
- GM was caught in ignition coverups.
- Volkswagen was caught cheating on smog tests.
- So too was Ford about 15 years ago.
- Takata made junk airbags that ejected shrapnel at passengers, and virtually ALL oems used them. Why? Because OEMs are not perfect. Given all those examples, I fundamentally do not trust any corporation.
- IMHO ;-)
:-D
FILTER STUDIES:
- https://bobistheoilguy.com/air-filtration-test/
- http://filtrationcomparisons.weebly.com/test-pictures-and-results.html
- http://www.austincc.edu/wkibbe/oilfilterstudy.htm
= http://www.amsoil.com/graphs/eao/eao_efficiency_500px.jpg
- And one other test I cannot find. The owner may have erased it.
Yes these are OLD tests so if you can provide newer ones, I would love to see them. I try to make the best choices using whatever data I can find (as I do on my engineering job). Data from these multiple sources show OEM filters, like OEM oil, is rarely the best you can buy.
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
(2) Toyota, Honda, and some other OEM filters are very poor at filtration
Toyota and Honda make good quality vehicles
Normally I would not reply, but I don't want to ignore your direct question, or the other guy asking for "studies" of filters:
- Toyota has built engines that sludged the oil and died as young as 25000 miles and led to a class-action lawsuit (U.S. and multiple States v. Toyota). They also had minivans where the sidedoor could randomly open (leading to a recall).
- I own 3 Hondas so I love the brand, but I recognize they made some major blunders. They make bad auto transmissions, bad VCM engines, bad belt-driven CVTs, and use bad batteries in their hybrids.
- GM was caught in ignition coverups.
- Volkswagen was caught cheating on smog tests.
- So too was Ford about 15 years ago.
- Takata made junk airbags that ejected shrapnel at passengers, and virtually ALL oems used them. Why? Because OEMs are not perfect. Given all those examples, I fundamentally do not trust any corporation.
- IMHO ;-)
:-DFILTER STUDIES:
- https://bobistheoilguy.com/air-filtration-test/
- http://filtrationcomparisons.weebly.com/test-pictures-and-results.html
- http://www.austincc.edu/wkibbe/oilfilterstudy.htm
= http://www.amsoil.com/graphs/eao/eao_efficiency_500px.jpg
- And one other test I cannot find. The owner may have erased it.
Yes these are OLD tests so if you can provide newer ones, I would love to see them. I try to make the best choices using whatever data I can find (as I do on my engineering job). Data from these multiple sources show OEM filters, like OEM oil, is rarely the best you can buy.
