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#4298223 - 01/09/17 09:52 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: Y_K]
tomcat27 Offline


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perhaps he's headed to an all-inclusive resort?
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#4298243 - 01/09/17 10:23 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: madRiver]
Vern_in_IL Offline


Registered: 06/25/14
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Originally Posted By: madRiver
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I hope he spends a long time in jail.


Why????? It's federal white collar crime that was unethical but did not hurt anyone.


Does pollution kill?
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#4298260 - 01/09/17 10:46 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: madRiver]
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Registered: 02/19/13
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I hope he spends a long time in jail.


Why????? It's federal white collar crime that was unethical but did not hurt anyone.


White collar crime? So just because he didn't pull out a gun and shoot people in the head means he shouldn't have jail time?

What about someone stealing millions of dollars from a company? Just a slap on the wrist?
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#4298347 - 01/10/17 06:33 AM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: Y_K]
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Low hanging fruit. An arrest needed before January 20th.
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#4298394 - 01/10/17 07:48 AM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: VNTS]
Danno Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
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Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: VNTS
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
I hope he spends a long time in jail.



yes cheaters should spend time in jail, this guy will take one for the team!

you can thank vw for screwing any future deisels in the US, they will be too expensive.


2018 F150 engine option will include a 3.0L diesel.

2018 GM mid-size SUVs will include a diesel option.

These 2 additions will have a far greater reach on diesel adoption than VW alone ever could.

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#4298745 - 01/10/17 02:21 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: madRiver]
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Registered: 01/24/08
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Originally Posted By: madRiver
Why????? It's federal white collar crime that was unethical but did not hurt anyone.


Sure it did, the up to 40x elevated emissions didn't help anyone's lungs. If you don't mind breathing in tons of extra toxins then have at it.
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#4298782 - 01/10/17 03:10 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: Y_K]
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Big deal. They already paid a massive billion dollar settlement. This is nothing but politics before January 20th.
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#4298825 - 01/10/17 03:46 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: Y_K]
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Lucky GM execs. The rotating key debacle only killed 124 people and didn't pollute the air.
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#4298827 - 01/10/17 03:47 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: Danno]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Originally Posted By: Danno
With lawyers like that, who needs enemies?

He should have hired Vijay Mallya's lawyers. That man knows when it's safe to travel. wink
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#4299297 - 01/11/17 06:47 AM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: SatinSilver]
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Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 2943
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Why????? It's federal white collar crime that was unethical but did not hurt anyone.


Sure it did, the up to 40x elevated emissions didn't help anyone's lungs. If you don't mind breathing in tons of extra toxins then have at it.


The post was in response to going to a jail for a long time ...I believe some sort of fine and or jail time in minimum security is appropriate if guilty however this is not jail in a long time crime....

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#4299300 - 01/11/17 06:50 AM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: SatinSilver]
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Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 2943
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Why????? It's federal white collar crime that was unethical but did not hurt anyone.


Sure it did, the up to 40x elevated emissions didn't help anyone's lungs. If you don't mind breathing in tons of extra toxins then have at it.


i noticed references to Jan 20 but after that appointees don't believe in environment or any science or pollution etc.

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#4299316 - 01/11/17 07:16 AM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: Y_K]
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If you're an executive and you sign your name to something in bad faith there should be legal repercussions up to and including jail.

We should have arrested fifty-odd bankers during the bail-out back in 2008. The charge would have been perjury for signing a quarterly report with an artificially rosy view. They'd have whined loudly but it would have shown the common man that we don't appreciate people playing fast and loose.

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#4299368 - 01/11/17 08:15 AM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: SatinSilver]
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Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11056
Loc: NH
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Why????? It's federal white collar crime that was unethical but did not hurt anyone.


Sure it did, the up to 40x elevated emissions didn't help anyone's lungs. If you don't mind breathing in tons of extra toxins then have at it.


Sure, but older cars pour out more than that, I bet. And it's legal for them to do so. As they met the requirements for their date of manufacture. Hence I don't get up in arms about this, as it's not quite a double standard--but is.

Jail time is appropriate here, and the bit "no bail" is only because he is a true flight risk--but it sure makes the case sound all the more sinister, doesn't it?
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#4299445 - 01/11/17 09:57 AM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: Y_K]
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This is not the same as the banks. You guys have to understand that the US government guaranteed all those loans. The bailouts were a mere formality, not something that was won in courts.
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#4299742 - 01/11/17 03:22 PM Re: VAG Exec Arrested - No Bail [Re: eljefino]
Win Offline


Registered: 02/05/03
Posts: 4325
Loc: Arkansas
Originally Posted By: eljefino
If you're an executive and you sign your name to something in bad faith there should be legal repercussions up to and including jail.

We should have arrested fifty-odd bankers during the bail-out back in 2008. .....


This is correct, although I suspect the number of bankers is considerably more than 50.

This man is not likley to stand trial or go to jail. He will be squeezed until he flips to snitch on bigger and better fish.

edit: here, federal prisoners awaiting trial are kept under contract by local county jails. If this German executive is being held in a local Detroit county jail, one can only wonder how long it will take before he is singing like a bird.


Edited by Win (01/11/17 03:31 PM)
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