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#4297655 - 01/09/17 12:09 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: SubLGT]
Virtus_Probi Offline


Registered: 06/25/15
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Originally Posted By: SubLGT
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An all-new second-generation 2.7-liter EcoBoost engine features advanced dual port and direct injection technology

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https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia...150-pickup.html



This should help minimize carbon buildup on the intake valves...no walnut shell blasting necessary!
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#4297679 - 01/09/17 12:33 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: CT8]
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Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: carviewsonic
Auto stop/start standard across the line.... Yuck! Had a rental car with that "feature" for a week last summer, there was no way to disable it. Really disliked and didn't get used to auto stop/start, and I won't buy a car that has it. I'm too old school I guess...
Yep it sucks.


It's one of my favorite features on my truck.
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#4297739 - 01/09/17 01:25 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: SubLGT]
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My 2017 cherokee has auto stop/start.

I dont mind it. One button press taking aprox .75second disables it until the next time you start the vehicle.

Its not always appropriate such as high humidity low temp conditions.
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#4297805 - 01/09/17 02:40 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: CT8]
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Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: carviewsonic
Auto stop/start standard across the line.... Yuck! Had a rental car with that "feature" for a week last summer, there was no way to disable it. Really disliked and didn't get used to auto stop/start, and I won't buy a car that has it. I'm too old school I guess...
Yep it sucks.


Call me old school too. Hopefully if I'm forced into that technology at some point in time there's an easy way to disable it, preferably for good. With all the stop and go traffic here that's the last thing I want.
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#4297966 - 01/09/17 05:50 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: SubLGT]
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http://articles.sae.org/15195/

Ford is aiming for 30mpg highway with the V6 diesel

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The 3.0-L PowerStroke V6, based on Fordís proven ĎLioní family developed in-house for group use when Ford owned Jaguar Land Rover is currently offered in Range Rover models. The 84 x 90-mm bore/stroke engine features a compacted-graphite iron (CGI) cylinder block and aluminum DOHC heads. It is expected to enable the Dearborn automaker to claim best-in-class fuel efficiency for its highest-volume and most profitable model. The diesel will also be a significant step toward getting F-150 into federal CAFE compliance for MY2025, which mandates a minimum 30-mpg highway/23 city rating for vehicles with a minimum footprint of 75 ft2 (7 m).

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#4297996 - 01/09/17 06:20 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: SubLGT]
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Auto-stop better be smart on the turbodiesel: turning off engine while turbine is hot is recipe for cooking it.

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#4298041 - 01/09/17 07:04 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: SubLGT]
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The Diesel has been rumored since early last year. The 3.0 option is from their Euro lines, Land Rovers Lion engine.

Nice torque and hp numbers, but I wonder what the real world mileage will be like and what the engine upcharge will be?
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#4298042 - 01/09/17 07:05 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: DrRoughneck]
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Originally Posted By: DrRoughneck
Auto-stop better be smart on the turbodiesel: turning off engine while turbine is hot is recipe for cooking it.


The Ecoboosts are all turbos too, at least they'll be cooking turbos and oil across the board!
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#4298208 - 01/09/17 09:31 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: SubLGT]
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How is start stop in a turbo engine a good idea? The wide temperature swings and rotational speeds seems like this would quickly wear out parts due to mechanical stresses.

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#4298227 - 01/09/17 10:00 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: nobb]
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Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 10008
Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: nobb
How is start stop in a turbo engine a good idea? The wide temperature swings and rotational speeds seems like this would quickly wear out parts due to mechanical stresses.


Modern engine computers calculate all sorts of things like engine run time and power output. Wouldn't be too hard to correlate run time and power output to make a tree of when to shut down or not.

Also, there's almost nothing to wear in a journal bearing like the modern production gas-engine turbos use. Add in that all these turbos are actively and passively water-cooled in addition to oil-cooled. Their temperatures do not swing as dramatically as turbos of 30 years ago. Practice good maintenance and it'll be fine.

Mid-20's MPG average for a body on frame barn door is pretty darned good. And 30 mpg highway would be unreal in a pickup.
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#4298230 - 01/09/17 10:04 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: 09_GXP]
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Registered: 03/08/12
Posts: 4364
Loc: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted By: 09_GXP
Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: carviewsonic
Auto stop/start standard across the line.... Yuck! Had a rental car with that "feature" for a week last summer, there was no way to disable it. Really disliked and didn't get used to auto stop/start, and I won't buy a car that has it. I'm too old school I guess...
Yep it sucks.


It's one of my favorite features on my truck.

When BMW introduced A/S system, it could be turned off, but it would activate itself next time. There were so much complaints for not being able to disable for good, that BMW updated software to allow that.
Strange that FORD did not learn this lesson from BMW, since it happened in 2011.
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#4298278 - 01/09/17 11:54 PM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: Virtus_Probi]
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Registered: 10/28/11
Posts: 331
Loc: ND
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: SubLGT
Quote:
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An all-new second-generation 2.7-liter EcoBoost engine features advanced dual port and direct injection technology

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https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia...150-pickup.html



This should help minimize carbon buildup on the intake valves...no walnut shell blasting necessary!


2nd Gen! That motor has only been out a couple years!
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#4298345 - 01/10/17 06:30 AM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: Balrog006]
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Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 2634
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: Balrog006
Originally Posted By: DrRoughneck
Auto-stop better be smart on the turbodiesel: turning off engine while turbine is hot is recipe for cooking it.


The Ecoboosts are all turbos too, at least they'll be cooking turbos and oil across the board!


Modern turbos(last 10-15 years) use convection to keep coolant flowing. It's not 1980's anymore.....

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#4298352 - 01/10/17 06:38 AM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: Balrog006]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 27933
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Balrog006
The Diesel has been rumored since early last year. The 3.0 option is from their Euro lines, Land Rovers Lion engine.

Nice torque and hp numbers, but I wonder what the real world mileage will be like and what the engine upcharge will be?


IIRC when we were considering the Jeep GC diesel, the upcharge was about $4,500. I'm glad I read up and asked around about the engine and stayed clear.

I can't imagine a diesel with stop start.
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#4298386 - 01/10/17 07:36 AM Re: New 2018 F150 Powertrains [Re: edyvw]
meep Offline


Registered: 02/20/07
Posts: 3273
Loc: Southeast
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: 09_GXP
Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: carviewsonic
Auto stop/start standard across the line.... Yuck! Had a rental car with that "feature" for a week last summer, there was no way to disable it. Really disliked and didn't get used to auto stop/start, and I won't buy a car that has it. I'm too old school I guess...
Yep it sucks.


It's one of my favorite features on my truck.

When BMW introduced A/S system, it could be turned off, but it would activate itself next time. There were so much complaints for not being able to disable for good, that BMW updated software to allow that.
Strange that FORD did not learn this lesson from BMW, since it happened in 2011.


If I understand correctly, the mpg savings from a given feature may only be used IF that system is enabled by default. If Ford were to make it something the driver could just turn off and stay off, they can't count the mpg gains in the book. I'm sure there are smaller details I'm missing, but I *think* that's the gist of it.

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