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#4297915 - 01/09/17 04:36 PM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
Vuflanovsky Offline


Registered: 12/15/14
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I know this is blasphemy...but I have enough nannies ( electronic and otherwise ) in my life so the idea of an OLM doesn't matter if my life is set by calendar schedule and not if there's 5% or 15% of oil life left. It just creates an anal episode where I have to wonder if I can redo my calendar to get 10% more oil life out of it and eff up something else that's not foreseen on that day.

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#4298450 - 01/10/17 09:08 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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The santa fe sport has a maintenance required countdown. You can set it as to your preference.
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#4299013 - 01/10/17 06:47 PM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Registered: 11/14/10
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I somewhat wish my DD Hyundai has a 2nd trip. I reset the 1st trip when filling the fuel tank. I would use the 2nd trip for oil changes. But not a big deal as I do 5k OCIs on the odo. I think if it had a OLM I probably wouldn't go by it.

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#4299418 - 01/11/17 09:28 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: supton]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
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Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
I don't like nagging OLMs.
Rather not have any.


I'm not against it. It'd be nice if it was programmable, though. One could program theirs to go off at 3k, 4k, 6.5k, or whatever OCI they decide to run. I know I prefer to do 5k or 10k OCI's on the basis that it's dirt simple to remember when to do it--just look at the odo's 1,000 mile digit. Otherwise I need to write it down and stick it on the windshield.


Ford already has this feature available on their cars. I believe you can set the OLM interval to a percentage of the base number.
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#4319370 - 02/02/17 03:14 PM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Yup. And it's a shame.
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#4319531 - 02/02/17 06:40 PM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Toyota doesn't either. They just recommend a flat 10K OCI for most of their products.
I like having an IOLM. It takes the guesswork out of OCIs and thereby allows you to run a conservative interval with many variables considered.
A flat time or mileage interval will not make sense in many use patterns for any vehicle.
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#4319538 - 02/02/17 06:51 PM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
WobblyElvis Offline


Registered: 09/23/14
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Just count how many times you fill up the tank. About 20 tanks of gas should work out about right and similar to an OLM.

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#4319553 - 02/02/17 07:08 PM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Registered: 09/20/03
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Loc: Austin, TX
I run flat 10k on my Lexus and 7.5K on Highlander. Who trusts these OLMs anyway. Didn't realize BMW designed the first ones, they should spend that development cost on good starters, power window motor designn etc. Companies like BMW that haven't gotten the.basics right shouldn't spend money on these useless monitors.
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#4319780 - 02/03/17 07:04 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Registered: 10/10/08
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^^^What an opinion. Maybe they are useless to you but they save us thousands and give us nearly infinite engine life. Add to that we are not wasting oil by pouring it out early.

Loving the OLM here since our first one was introduced...
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#4319782 - 02/03/17 07:08 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Probably Hyundai or Kia figured that doing the OLM thing was a waste of time. Folks like me, with OLM's in their vehicles, don't pay any attention to it anyway except to reset it when they change the oil. Just one more stupid step to go thru on an oil change. And the OLM may be ok, generally, but is not always that good. Case in point, my 2006 Cadillac CTS 3.6. GM had to come back later and reprogram the OLM to knock the interval down to half of what it was coming from the factory after they realized that the original setup was causing too many engine failures. I doubt anyone in R&D was canned over that one.
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#4319785 - 02/03/17 07:12 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Hyundai has two vastly different oil change schedules for severe service versus standard.
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#4319804 - 02/03/17 07:52 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
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Registered: 03/01/07
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Loc: NE
The one in my Overland has an Algorithm , measures, cold starts, oil temp, mileage, Rpm etc

So far has worked out to about 10K distance, of course I have changed and reset it, I am the un-environmentalist changing the oil more frequently.

I really dont see adding these features as a big cost, the OEM's must have a pretty good idea of what is needed in the algorithm and I am sure they do it on the conservative side, plus I beleive Jeep wants the oil changed at least twice a year for severe service regardless of the miles driven.

If Hyundai doesnt include one, jsut shows how lazt their Engineering and Marketing people are.

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#4319901 - 02/03/17 09:59 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
Alfred_B Offline


Registered: 05/12/15
Posts: 1587
Loc: America
The readership on BITOG is smart enough to know about proper oil change intervals.

OLM-s are for the general population and get the job done well.

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#4319943 - 02/03/17 10:39 AM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: ChrisD46]
Errtt Offline


Registered: 11/14/10
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Loc: California
I have never had a vehicle with OLM and currently one of my 3 vehicles is a 2010 Hyundai. If it did have a OLM, I'd probably ignore it and continue doing my 5k OCIs with conventional (PYB 5w-30 & OEM filter).

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#4320254 - 02/03/17 04:13 PM Re: Hyndai / Kia - Still No Oil Life Monitors ? [Re: JustinH]
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Registered: 09/25/09
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Originally Posted By: JustinH
Hyundai has two vastly different oil change schedules for severe service versus standard.



This is where an IOLM comes into play.
As long as a proper algorithm taking the correct variables into account is used, the guesswork in deciding what schedule to use in changing the oil is eliminated.
These systems can't be very costly either, since GM has had them for years on even its cheapest models.
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