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#4295868 - 01/07/17 02:38 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
Robertslowpoke Offline


Registered: 12/26/10
Posts: 197
Loc: Mass.
this is not "trolling" whatever that means! or a joke!

my friend, just retired. drives a semi trailer from the scrap yard to another place a few miles away to deliver the metal. sometimes during the day, they fill his truck with scrap. he then drives to the other place, where they unload it.

he runs his engine all day long. we live in Mass. i THINK he did it in summer, too. waste???

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#4295894 - 01/07/17 03:12 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
Vikas Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
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Do you keep block heaters on all night or put it on the timer to come it on few hours before?

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#4295907 - 01/07/17 03:40 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
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Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
Good to know.
Thank you.
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Wait. When you said:

Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
There are people in Alaska and Canada's deep north who do it all the time.


You mean you didn't really know that? You just made it up?

Post that pic of your Challenger yet?
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#4295922 - 01/07/17 03:56 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
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It use to be common to leave the diesel trucks idling 24/7. But a couple years ago UPS set a new policy of if you aren't in the drivers seat the engine should be switched off. May even have a switch on the seat like a lawn mower.

With the pickup coal rollers the Cummins engine guys like to leave their engines running because they are so clanky I guess.

I heard that the auto start/stop will be a standard feature on cars soon.
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#4295949 - 01/07/17 04:35 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
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auto start/stop is a standard feature on many cars already.
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#4295950 - 01/07/17 04:35 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: Jetronic]
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My cousin owns a small oil & gas services company - those guys spend long hours in Chevy 1500 4WD's with engines running in over 100F - (laptop jocks, running the AC) ...
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#4296461 - 01/08/17 04:12 AM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: kschachn]
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Registered: 11/04/16
Posts: 479
Loc: MN, CA
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
There are people in Alaska and Canada's deep north who do it all the time.

You mean you didn't really know that? You just made it up? Post that pic of your Challenger yet?

I guess you don't watch Ice Road Truckers.
They leave their cars running.
In the past I have had Alaskans/Canadians tell me they run their cars all night.

And I have no clue how to upload a photo to this site, and frankly I'm not wasting an hour of my life trying to figure it out unless you PAY me to do it. I don't work for my boss for free, and same goes for you. (I had another word typed here, but the forum censors the word [censored]... a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments.)


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#4296467 - 01/08/17 04:32 AM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: Vikas]
Colt45ws Offline


Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 9254
Loc: Central Washington
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Do you keep block heaters on all night or put it on the timer to come it on few hours before?

I leave mine plugged in all night, simply to have less heat cool cycles.
I get home, plug it in and the engine cools to the equilibrium point (90-110F depending on ambient)

It would take about 4-5 hours to warm from dead cold if you did want to put it on a timer. Would save about 4 kwh to do that (400w * 10 hours).

In total Im using 5.6ish kwh per night. I usually use it about 6 days a week and so this is about 135kwh a month. For me, this is only $6.08 in electric bill.


Edited by Colt45ws (01/08/17 04:35 AM)
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#4296499 - 01/08/17 07:03 AM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
silverrat Offline


Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 1532
Loc: Ontario
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
There are people in Alaska and Canada's deep north who do it all the time.

You mean you didn't really know that? You just made it up? Post that pic of your Challenger yet?

I guess you don't watch Ice Road Truckers.
They leave their cars running.
In the past I have had Alaskans/Canadians tell me they run their cars all night.

And I have no clue how to upload a photo to this site, and frankly I'm not wasting an hour of my life trying to figure it out unless you PAY me to do it. I don't work for my boss for free, and same goes for you. (I had another word typed here, but the forum censors the word [censored]... a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments.)



So how about backing up your claim that Civic CNG "needs a different CNG-only oil, that is quite expensive, because normal oil doesn't work?" If you are going to state "facts" be prepared to back them up regardless of whether you feel you should get paid for your time. Otherwise just admit you were wrong and not purposely spreading misinformation.
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#4296566 - 01/08/17 09:01 AM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
TiredTrucker Offline


Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 3157
Loc: Central Iowa
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
There are people in Alaska and Canada's deep north who do it all the time.

You mean you didn't really know that? You just made it up? Post that pic of your Challenger yet?

I guess you don't watch Ice Road Truckers.
They leave their cars running.
In the past I have had Alaskans/Canadians tell me they run their cars all night.

And I have no clue how to upload a photo to this site, and frankly I'm not wasting an hour of my life trying to figure it out unless you PAY me to do it. I don't work for my boss for free, and same goes for you. (I had another word typed here, but the forum censors the word [censored]... a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments.)



Yeah, there is TV shows about living up in the frozen north, and then there is those of us that have actually done it for more than just a season and not in front of cameras. Kinda like there are movies about war and then those that actually remember the true smell of it. I lived 10 years just South of Fairbanks in Delta Junction (the location for the U.S. Army Cold Region Test Center) where I worked as a civilian employee for them. Drove heavy trucks up there for most of those years to many locations in Alaska. No... never left vehicles, small or large, running all night. And it was not uncommon to have mornings where temps were below -50F. Used a healthy dose of common sense in setting up vehicles right for the cold they would endure. Some used plug in setups, some used fuel fired heaters that kept things warmed. Some a combination of the two. Some on timers. When I went home each day, first thing after pulling in drive and shutting off, things got plugged up.... block heater, oil pan warmer, battery blanket. That '79 Bronco with a 351M V8 did just fine for most of those years, and primarily on conventional oil. Only a interior heater fan took a dump on that ride. The plastic parts of the interior did look like they had been beat up with a sledge hammer after several years of that frigid cold. Hind sight is always 20/20. Should have used some sort of interior heater on the poor thing when it was shut off.
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#4296682 - 01/08/17 10:51 AM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 7855
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: veryHeavy
And I have no clue how to upload a photo to this site, and frankly I'm not wasting an hour of my life trying to figure it out unless you PAY me to do it. I don't work for my boss for free, and same goes for you. (I had another word typed here, but the forum censors the word [censored]... a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments.)


You seem to have figured it out OK in other threads, like the one with the Amsoil filter efficiency chart. Can you go back there an comment on my question?
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#4296717 - 01/08/17 11:33 AM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: Vikas]
seanf Offline


Registered: 12/16/14
Posts: 154
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Do you keep block heaters on all night or put it on the timer to come it on few hours before?


I have a 250w oil pan heater, its plugged in all the time when the cars parked. When I had a car with a coolant heater it was plugged in all the time the car was parked as well, there was always a noticeable difference starting a car that only had 3 hours of plug in time vs all night (was always told 3 hours is all you need)

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#4297149 - 01/08/17 08:32 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
Vikas Offline


Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 11088
Loc: NorthEast
I presume all the block heaters have thermostat to control the temperature and turn themselves off if not needed?

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#4297735 - 01/09/17 01:21 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: Kuato]
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Registered: 03/05/15
Posts: 603
Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Northern Montana, I know a couple guys that will let their diesel idle all night when they are out in the open at -20C.



That is the reason for doing so. At 20 or more below, diesels can be difficult to start after an entire evening turned off.

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#4308277 - 01/20/17 05:29 PM Re: Leaving the engine run All night long (all night) [Re: veryHeavy]
CBR.worm Offline


Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 1809
Loc: Jupiter, Fl
Years ago, I worked at large airports. It was not uncommon for them to leave the luggage tugs running overnight.
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