SAE Paper on Toyota NASCAR oil development

[Shannow]

http://papers.sae.org/2000-01-3553/

Only preview available with just enough information to be generally interesting...

 

[PeterPolyol]

Can't wait for Toyota to turn the oil industry on it's head with this incredible race-bred R&D related to making their NASCAR race engines last longer. I bet they can show Lubrizol and thing or two

Thanks for posting.

 

[Skid]

I have the paper. It's old, but worth reading, IMO.

Executive summary: The worst oil additive package tested (wear wise) was the best oil additive package that was modified with the addition of moly AF additive. Another bad oil additive package was a high detergent additive package.

Can't have it all. I'll pick engine cleanliness over wear or friction though. Wear is not that important to me.

 

[BrocLuno]

Yeah, 2,000 is a while back and I'll bet there have been incremental advances in non-metallic based additives.

I seem to recall a few cars over the last few years sponsored by G-Oil and I assume running their lubricants... Seems they completed the races w/o catastrophic failure which says something about bio-based lubricants.

I suspect that there will be a future melding of petro and bio-based oils that may out perform current lubricants ...

 

[Ohle_Manezzini]

But the winer is JGR team and oil

 

[BigD1]

Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
Can't wait for Toyota to turn the oil industry on it's head with this incredible race-bred R&D related to making their NASCAR race engines last longer. I bet they can show Lubrizol and thing or two

Thanks for posting.


Martin Truex Jr would not be impressed.

 

[NateDN10]

Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Yeah, 2,000 is a while back and I'll bet there have been incremental advances in non-metallic based additives.

I seem to recall a few cars over the last few years sponsored by G-Oil and I assume running their lubricants... Seems they completed the races w/o catastrophic failure which says something about bio-based lubricants.

I suspect that there will be a future melding of petro and bio-based oils that may out perform current lubricants ...

I believe what I heard at the time was that the support vehicles were running G-Oil, but not the race cars.

 

[ebr1190rx]

They use mpao and youll pay for it...

 

[CT8]

Originally Posted By: ebr1190rx
They use mpao and youll pay for it...
This stuff?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: ebr1190rx
They use mpao and youll pay for it...
This stuff?


Or the Mobil version:

Spectrasyn Elite mPAO

 

[CT8]

Are there any available oil on the marker? Is the high VI Toyota oil the mPAO [blend]?

 

[Shannow]

TGMO is pretty well GrIII and VII IIRC.

 

[Koz1]

10W-30 protected just as well as 20W-50.

 

[ebr1190rx]

I got a free sample gallon of the 100 mobil mpao.