Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
It's really a numbers game.
How ARROGANT and small-minded would we be...to assume...that, given the SIZE of this galaxy...let alone the known universe...that we are the only civilization to arise.
I think the jury is still out on that one on either end. It's possible that the speed of light is really the limiting factor and while other civilizations may have rose, they may have also fallen, the universe has been around for a little over 13 billion years so the last civilization could have died out millions or billions of years ago.
Or there's the concept of the singularity, once a civilization goes beyond that, maybe they don't care about others. You actually don't even need that concept, may the others just don't care.
Oh and when the Milky way collides with the Andromeda galaxy in about 4 billion years, then assuming Amsoil is still around, there will be distributors in both galaxies.
Oh I don't doubt any of that. Personally, I think we'll find a way around the "speed limit" problem. To support that argument, just look at how far we've come, technologically, just in the last 113 years, since the Wright Bros. first flew. Heck, in just 44 years, starting in 1903, we went from the Wrights, to the flight of the Boeing B-47 Stratojet, predecessor to the 707, the first wildly successful jet airliner, which shrunk the world dramatically, to put it mildly.
It's been said that where there's a will, there's a way. I'm someone who believes that engineers can solve pretty much any problem, given the motivation. If you can imagine it, it can be built.
Great screen name, BTW
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
It's really a numbers game.
How ARROGANT and small-minded would we be...to assume...that, given the SIZE of this galaxy...let alone the known universe...that we are the only civilization to arise.
I think the jury is still out on that one on either end. It's possible that the speed of light is really the limiting factor and while other civilizations may have rose, they may have also fallen, the universe has been around for a little over 13 billion years so the last civilization could have died out millions or billions of years ago.
Or there's the concept of the singularity, once a civilization goes beyond that, maybe they don't care about others. You actually don't even need that concept, may the others just don't care.
Oh and when the Milky way collides with the Andromeda galaxy in about 4 billion years, then assuming Amsoil is still around, there will be distributors in both galaxies.
Oh I don't doubt any of that. Personally, I think we'll find a way around the "speed limit" problem. To support that argument, just look at how far we've come, technologically, just in the last 113 years, since the Wright Bros. first flew. Heck, in just 44 years, starting in 1903, we went from the Wrights, to the flight of the Boeing B-47 Stratojet, predecessor to the 707, the first wildly successful jet airliner, which shrunk the world dramatically, to put it mildly.
It's been said that where there's a will, there's a way. I'm someone who believes that engineers can solve pretty much any problem, given the motivation. If you can imagine it, it can be built.
Great screen name, BTW