Mobil-1 high milage now going SN??

[SOHCman]

I Just bought a jug of M1-HM 5w-20 from wally mart and noticed the jug now states that it is SN rated instead of SL.

My prior SL jug purchased just last OCI states ACEA A1/B1, API SL, jug code: 11016626A
New SL jug states ACEA A1/B1, API SN/SM, jug code: 11016H24A

Neither state energy conserving or have the API starbust.

This is my first time using this oil(in the 5w-20 flavor, lots of 5w-30 use), and perhaps I just got one of the last SL rated during the change over, but I wondered what this possibly means for the additive package? The SL is doing a great job of cleaning up from what I can see through the oil cap hole.

 

[wemay]

I noticed the same thing this weekend. The jug i was looking at also had ACEA A3 approval along with SN. Unfortunately i cannot remember the viscosity.

 

[FCD]

Originally Posted By: SOHCman
I Just bought a jug of M1-HM 5w-20 from wally mart and noticed the jug now states that it is SN rated instead of SL.

My prior SL jug purchased just last OCI states ACEA A1/B1, API SL, jug code: 11016626A
New SL jug states ACEA A1/B1, API SN/SM, jug code: 11016H24A

Neither state energy conserving or have the API starbust.

This is my first time using this oil(in the 5w-20 flavor, lots of 5w-30 use), and perhaps I just got one of the last SL rated during the change over, but I wondered what this possibly means for the additive package? The SL is doing a great job of cleaning up from what I can see through the oil cap hole.

Probably less Zinc and Phos

 

[SOHCman]

"Probably less Zinc and Phos"

Siiiiigh, this is the reason I get this oil...

 

[SOHCman]

Originally Posted By: wemay
I noticed the same thing this weekend. The jug i was looking at also had ACEA A3 approval along with SN. Unfortunately i cannot remember the viscosity.


Hmm, even the M1HM 5w-30 I have is ACEA A1/B1, time to go stalk the oil shelf...

 

[JeepWJ19]

That's a bummer but it was bound to happen.

I'm gonna switch to Chevron Delo XLE 10w30 semi-synth next oil change anyway so no harm towards me :]

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
That's a bummer but it was bound to happen.

I'm gonna switch to Chevron Delo XLE 10w30 semi-synth next oil change anyway so no harm towards me :]


That oil isn't SL either. It's SM.

 

[JeepWJ19]

Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
That's a bummer but it was bound to happen.

I'm gonna switch to Chevron Delo XLE 10w30 semi-synth next oil change anyway so no harm towards me :]


That oil isn't SL either. It's SM.


Sorry but my motives aren't because of rating. I did not intend my comment on switching to imply I care about the rating between SL-SM-SN. I'm just merely switching.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
That's a bummer but it was bound to happen.

I'm gonna switch to Chevron Delo XLE 10w30 semi-synth next oil change anyway so no harm towards me :]


That oil isn't SL either. It's SM.


Sorry but my motives aren't because of rating. I did not intend my comment on switching to imply I care about the rating between SL-SM-SN. I'm just merely switching.


Ahh, ok got it.

 

[SOHCman]

After stalking the oil isle, I am saddened to have found that no only has the roll-back pricing gone, but that now even all the 5w-30 is SN... Maybe the SN will turn out to still have a stout additive package suitable for non roller cams, as that was the main reason I was trying to stick with the SL.

 

[KingCake]

Originally Posted By: SOHCman
"Probably less Zinc and Phos"

Siiiiigh, this is the reason I get this oil...


lmao like you could ever tell the difference. There are newer, better additives.

 

[901Memphis]

Another one bites the dust!

 

[EdwardC]

Crazy. I was planning to check out WM tonight for some oil for the snow blower. I was planning to go with the 5W-30 HM over the other M1 options for the extra additives. I might just get some HDEO stuff then!

 

[BigD1]

Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
That's a bummer but it was bound to happen.

I'm gonna switch to Chevron Delo XLE 10w30 semi-synth next oil change anyway so no harm towards me :]


I like that choice. Don't forget the current $6 a gallon rebate limit three for a total of $18. Valid 9/1/16 to 10/31/16.

https://www.chevronpromotions.com/

 

[NH73]

I just had that gut feeling it would eventually happen. There is just going to be eventually more newer vehicles getting older and higher miles and only a handful of people really care about the Zinc and Phos levels.

 

[Merkava_4]

Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
I'm gonna switch to Chevron Delo XLE 10w30 semi-synth next oil change anyway so no harm towards me :]


That'll fix'm ! Stick it to the man !

 

[koffy]

I wonder if their 10W-40 flavor is gonna keep the same amount of zddp since it's already sn

 

[BigD1]

Valvoline VR1 is still going to be around. My local independent NAPA stocks the 10W-30 and 20W-50.

 

[Carbon12]

Aren't most modern OHC engines using what is essentially a flat tappet anyways? SN oils work fine in those. I am actually relieved they are going SN. I still get the slightly higher viscosity and extra seal conditioners and not have to wonder if the high phosphorous is harming the CC.

 

[JeepWJ19]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
I'm gonna switch to Chevron Delo XLE 10w30 semi-synth next oil change anyway so no harm towards me :]


That'll fix'm ! Stick it to the man !

I'm not sticking anything to the man :]