Running an FL-910S on my Taurus with the Vulcan 3.0 V6. WalMart was sold out of the FL-400S. No issues at all with downsizing the filter.
PH3600 size instead of PH16 size?
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC.
Fram's website begs to differ.
TG8316
TG3600
FWIW, Wix specifies the 51516 for the diesel Liberty, not the 51315 (which is on;ly spec'd for the Zetec)
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC.
Fram's website begs to differ.
TG8316
TG3600
FWIW, Wix specifies the 51516 for the diesel Liberty, not the 51315 (which is on;ly spec'd for the Zetec)
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
2 PSI isn't gonna matter in this case.
That is always what I figured with a small difference like that. Thanks for the clarification.
Slightly OT: The 6609 is 13 psi while the 9688 is 9-15 psi. Same gasket and thread size, but the 9688 is slightly bigger. I consider them interchangeable assuming one has the room.
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
2 PSI isn't gonna matter in this case.
That is always what I figured with a small difference like that. Thanks for the clarification.
Slightly OT: The 6609 is 13 psi while the 9688 is 9-15 psi. Same gasket and thread size, but the 9688 is slightly bigger. I consider them interchangeable assuming one has the room.
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
This is kind of what I was getting at regarding the bypass. I remember you trying this out on your Jeep. Lol.
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
This is kind of what I was getting at regarding the bypass. I remember you trying this out on your Jeep. Lol.
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
KC, that STP filter you sent me, wasn't that a high PSI bypass filter? My engine sounded like a wood pecker on a street light upon start up using it.
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
KC, that STP filter you sent me, wasn't that a high PSI bypass filter? My engine sounded like a wood pecker on a street light upon start up using it.
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
KC, that STP filter you sent me, wasn't that a high PSI bypass filter? My engine sounded like a wood pecker on a street light upon start up using it.
Yes but it wasn't an STP, it was the Wix version of the 8316 another diesel liberty filter equivalent that "should" fit anything an FL-400s but you had problems with noise due to the bypass as well. I cut and posted the STP 8316 about the same time I bet that is what you were thinking of.
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
KC, that STP filter you sent me, wasn't that a high PSI bypass filter? My engine sounded like a wood pecker on a street light upon start up using it.
Yes but it wasn't an STP, it was the Wix version of the 8316 another diesel liberty filter equivalent that "should" fit anything an FL-400s but you had problems with noise due to the bypass as well. I cut and posted the STP 8316 about the same time I bet that is what you were thinking of.
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
dlundblad said:Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC. Tried one on my Jeep cause everything else was the same, and being a Liberty diesel filter designed for high pressures it was absolutely built like a tank. The higher bypass gave me problems (running noise AFTER cold start up) so I had to bail after a few weeks.
Fun experiment though.
KC, that STP filter you sent me, wasn't that a high PSI bypass filter? My engine sounded like a wood pecker on a street light upon start up using it.
Yes but it wasn't an STP, it was the Wix version of the 8316 another diesel liberty filter equivalent that "should" fit anything an FL-400s but you had problems with noise due to the bypass as well. I cut and posted the STP 8316 about the same time I bet that is what you were thinking of.
Oh, yeah.......
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC.
Fram's website begs to differ.
TG8316
TG3600
FWIW, Wix specifies the 51516 for the diesel Liberty, not the 51315 (which is on;ly spec'd for the Zetec)
There has been a change since I tried it then if I can try some new stock I may try one again. And I bought one of the Wix clones as well, and it was NOT a FL-400s equivalent at the time I sent it to BOF in fact cause I couldn't use it. It also had the double ADBV set up, the 51516 does not I use those a lot on the Jeep currently in fact like 'em a lot.
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Does the 8316 have the same bypass as the 3600?
No. It's slightly higher (14 psi vs 12 psi)
No, it's a LOT higher about 23 psi IIRC.
Fram's website begs to differ.
TG8316
TG3600
FWIW, Wix specifies the 51516 for the diesel Liberty, not the 51315 (which is on;ly spec'd for the Zetec)
There has been a change since I tried it then if I can try some new stock I may try one again. And I bought one of the Wix clones as well, and it was NOT a FL-400s equivalent at the time I sent it to BOF in fact cause I couldn't use it. It also had the double ADBV set up, the 51516 does not I use those a lot on the Jeep currently in fact like 'em a lot.
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
There has been a change since I tried it then if I can try some new stock I may try one again. And I bought one of the Wix clones as well, and it was NOT a FL-400s equivalent at the time I sent it to BOF in fact cause I couldn't use it. It also had the double ADBV set up, the 51516 does not I use those a lot on the Jeep currently in fact like 'em a lot.
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
KC, you're correct, it was a WIX filter.
You know our engines are very similar when it comes to oil filters. The FU I have on my engine has done a great job on my engine upon start up. Keeps it quiet as a church mouse. Have you ever considered trying a FU?
There has been a change since I tried it then if I can try some new stock I may try one again. And I bought one of the Wix clones as well, and it was NOT a FL-400s equivalent at the time I sent it to BOF in fact cause I couldn't use it. It also had the double ADBV set up, the 51516 does not I use those a lot on the Jeep currently in fact like 'em a lot.
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
KC, you're correct, it was a WIX filter.
You know our engines are very similar when it comes to oil filters. The FU I have on my engine has done a great job on my engine upon start up. Keeps it quiet as a church mouse. Have you ever considered trying a FU?
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
There is a date code on the filter, written axially, near the thread and gasket end, as described here
NOTE: the OCOD and TG may have it in a different place than where the Ultra has it, but is likely the same format.
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
There is a date code on the filter, written axially, near the thread and gasket end, as described here
NOTE: the OCOD and TG may have it in a different place than where the Ultra has it, but is likely the same format.
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
The FU I have on my engine has done a great job on my engine upon start up. Keeps it quiet as a church mouse. Have you ever considered trying a FU?
No I do run Tough Guards sometimes but at the intervals I run even a TG is overkill. Have a TG3600 on the Concorde right now that is gonna be run over 10k though and cut/posted for posterity here.
The FU I have on my engine has done a great job on my engine upon start up. Keeps it quiet as a church mouse. Have you ever considered trying a FU?
No I do run Tough Guards sometimes but at the intervals I run even a TG is overkill. Have a TG3600 on the Concorde right now that is gonna be run over 10k though and cut/posted for posterity here.
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
There is a date code on the filter, written axially, near the thread and gasket end, as described here
NOTE: the OCOD and TG may have it in a different place than where the Ultra has it, but is likely the same format.
Thank you still not really getting the code but that helps, good start anyway.
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
I wonder how to tell what is new stock with a Fram?
There is a date code on the filter, written axially, near the thread and gasket end, as described here
NOTE: the OCOD and TG may have it in a different place than where the Ultra has it, but is likely the same format.
Thank you still not really getting the code but that helps, good start anyway.
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