What is this, alkyl sulfonate, ester or mineral oi

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I think the technical term is "snake oil." It's on page 9357a of the compendium, but only if you have the right version.
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I'm just being snide. I looked at a bit of the video and couldn't stand the rubbish he was spouting, so I turned it off. What did he make, an emulsion or some other mess? I couldn't get that far into the video at all.

If this doesn't work out for him, he can always try the old fashioned perpetual motion machine.
 
It's nothing new or magic...Universities were working on emulsion fuels in the 70s to help with smog. Was typically a coconut based surfactant, and 10% water, emulsified....and it did the job, dropping NOx CO, HC in exhaust systems.

However, it was a workaround for carbed engines, nothing to gain on FI engines.

As an aside, having read the articles in the 70s, in the 80s, I would ring detergent manufacturers to find which dish washing liquids had coconut derived surfactants, and make my own "napalm" gel.

As to fuel/water emulsions, and nothing being new under the sun...
http://www.emfuel.com/elib/elib003.pdf
http://www.egcfe.ewg.apec.org/publications/proceedings/CFE/Austrailia_2012/4D-3_Wibberley.pdf
http://dice-net.org/index.php/faqs#faqnoanchor
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/102524.aspx

As to the magic of the water, link posted for information only, not endorsement
http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/water-crystal.html
 
Yeah,
water
water and methylated spirits
petrol
petrol and methylated spirits

(no petrol and water emulsion) as yet.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
It's nothing new or magic...Universities were working on emulsion fuels in the 70s to help with smog. Was typically a coconut based surfactant, and 10% water, emulsified....and it did the job, dropping NOx CO, HC in exhaust systems.

However, it was a workaround for carbed engines, nothing to gain on FI engines.

As an aside, having read the articles in the 70s, in the 80s, I would ring detergent manufacturers to find which dish washing liquids had coconut derived surfactants, and make my own "napalm" gel.

As to fuel/water emulsions, and nothing being new under the sun...
http://www.emfuel.com/elib/elib003.pdf
http://www.egcfe.ewg.apec.org/publications/proceedings/CFE/Austrailia_2012/4D-3_Wibberley.pdf
http://dice-net.org/index.php/faqs#faqnoanchor
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/102524.aspx

As to the magic of the water, link posted for information only, not endorsement
http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/water-crystal.html



So, a coconut surfactant will emulsify water and gasoline? Interesting. I was leading to a alcohol, acetone combined to another inorganic additive(s) to do the emulsification task, but a natural detergent is another animal. Thanks for the links and thoughts on the matter, Shannow.
Thinking back, wouldn't a vibrator fuel tank & line make the water/gasoline combination, during engine running phase? You could start the engine and run the vibration process all the way to the injectors and be done.
 
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