Pennzoil Platinum with PurePlus Technology Q&A

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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
I think Sopus is a joke. Can't find PUP anywhere in Montreal area and checked Plattsburgh NY, and Burlington VT and nope nobody has it. Spend a ton on marketing and don't make the product available for purchase. Intelligence at its best.


I know what you mean. I went out of my way to a WM not in my area to buy some Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, but I'm not going to do that again. I like Mobil 1 just the same, and that's what I'm going to be using from now on. Also, Sopus does not foil seal their jugs of motor oil ... Mobil 1 uses a foil seal in addition to the tamper-proof ring on the cap ... another reason for me to use Mobil 1.
 
I picked some up today in Pasadena. Someone had put them behind the "old" Pennz Platinum (5qt jugs). I got two of them for $37.95 each, plus two PureOne filters for the FJ. I opened it up, and it does smell a lot different to me. Interested in seeing how it performs. Will be changing out this week. They only had 1Qt bottles of the Platinum Ultra and those were almost $10 a pop, so I figured this would do just fine.
 
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Blame the retailers. Walmart Canada doesn't bother much with gold bottle Edge or M1 EP, either. Their desire for 100%+ markup on motor oil means that no one buys any of those products from them.
 
Only people with PUP available is JiffyLube and I wouldn't trust them with a potato gun. I cant imagine paying 69.99 for a car that only needs 3qts and a cheap filter which I am sure they would use. Guess I will stick to my old Ultra stash or PP Gtl
 
In a previous post of mine I mentioned that I didn't want to use Sopus oils anymore, mainly due to the problem of finding Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. After thinking about this further, I will still use Pennzoil Platinum and Quaker State Ultimate Durability ... that is, when I can find an unopened jug of oil. It is just annoying trying to find a jug of PP/QSUD at WM that has not been opened. I am not going to buy/use motor oil that has had the break-away seal on the cap completely broken, especially on jugs of oil that don't have a foil seal on them.
 
That's a prime reason to buy from a distributor. I realize that it's a pretty sad state of affairs when we have to be worried about purchasing used oil. However, at the distributor, it's nice to get a clean, sealed box of clean, sealed jugs from a warehouse that's not readily accessible to the public. Shopping at Walmart means you have to deal with the people of Walmart, and I'll pass.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Don't just blame SOPUS. Blame the retailers. Walmart and Canadian Tire like to mark up oils over 100% for their regular prices. Combine that with SOPUS not marketing PU as a long drain oil (versus M1 EP), and you can see why it never worked up here. NAPA apparently still sells it at an outrageous price. Check your local SOPUS distributor and see what they can offer you.


Didn't you find it odd SOPUS completely dodged that question?

1. Will you market Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with PurePlus in Canada?

There response: Yes, Pennzoil Platinum® Full Synthetic motor oils with PurePlus™ Technology will be available in Canada.
 
Yep, that was a wonderful dodge. I don't know the situation down east, but out west, a normal SOPUS distributor cannot sell Pennzoil/Quaker State products. In this province, there is one distributor allowed to do that, with an office in the north (not in Saskatoon) and an office in the south (not in Regina). So, for those products, and with PU in particularly, one is at the mercy of retailers, notably Walmart and Canadian Tire, who will not carry them, and NAPA, who wants a gagillion dollars a litre for the stuff.

Walmart Canada doesn't seem interested in any of the top end synthetics anymore, either. The gold bottle Castrol and M1 EP were history last time I took a look. All that accomplishes is eliminating all competition that Canadian Tire faces on M1 EP and gold bottle Castrol.

Shell really screwed up their distribution network in western Canada a long time ago. They essentially washed their hands of bulk fuel distribution in rural areas and left their motor oil products to other retailers to sell for them.
 
I've got close to 1k on the new oil. I really like it. I've been around long enough to know there's many psychological benefits and butt dynos but I think it's smoother than ever with it in. Didn't have the Ultra in the five quart jugs yet so I started with the lower cost iteration this round. Smell is definitely different, as is the color. Will be interesting to see how it goes. I've been doing 7k OCI on the FJ and it's a number I feel good about. Oil comes out good and grubby but not so much as to smell over-done.
 
Not sure if this has been asked but can you mix the old PU with this new stuff?

I ask because I am ready for an oil change and I have a few quarts of the old PU but the only PU I can find now is this new pureplus.
 
Originally Posted By: 351mustang65
Not sure if this has been asked but can you mix the old PU with this new stuff?

I ask because I am ready for an oil change and I have a few quarts of the old PU but the only PU I can find now is this new pureplus.


Is the pure plus really a radical change or departure another words, is it revolutionary or evolutionary change? need to know in case I want to do a clean. It's like do you want a filter for maximum filtering or performance. So far, MC is the oil for performance and it seems all other lean more on the clean side or atleast that is what it historically was. Is this oil a game changer, inquiring minds want to know..
 
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I just bought some penzzoil platinum in 10-30 today for my 1998 ford escort with almost 180,000 miles. Since my car doesn't leak or burn oil I figured why not try full synthetic. It was cheap at walmart.

I turned it on and first thing I noticed was it had less vibration and the motor seemed smoother. When I took it for a test drive it had more pickup like it used to.

I'm pretty happy so far :)
 
Looking at answer to question #9, it states that it keeps the pistons up to 40% cleaner.

But on the bottle it self, it states that it keeps pistons up to 25% cleaner.


Anyone else noticed that?
 
Yup...The Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 10w30 is excellent.

You can get PUP 5w20 and 10w30 (3ea 5qt jugs - 15qts) delivered to your front door from Amazon for about $90. The Unopened version.
 
Originally Posted By: KGB7
Looking at answer to question #9, it states that it keeps the pistons up to 40% cleaner.

But on the bottle it self, it states that it keeps pistons up to 25% cleaner.


Anyone else noticed that?


So the median value is 32.5%?

I have no doubt their new detergent/dispersant technology cleans, but what is their baseline for making these cleanliness claims?

Are they comparing it to API SJ PYB or what?
 
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Originally Posted By: mash4077
I just bought some penzzoil platinum in 10-30 today for my 1998 ford escort with almost 180,000 miles. Since my car doesn't leak or burn oil I figured why not try full synthetic. It was cheap at walmart.

I turned it on and first thing I noticed was it had less vibration and the motor seemed smoother. When I took it for a test drive it had more pickup like it used to.

I'm pretty happy so far :)


Ah yes, the car runs smoother per the infamous "Butt Dynometer". They used to say that here about the old High Moly Havoline in 5W20 SL and SM. Gotta love it.
 
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Hey Mola..

The claim is compared against the "toughest API standard" at 65%. The 40 or 45% claim is against the original GroupIII+ (except it isn't, so they said) Platinum. Years ago here, the rage was that Dino Syns (Valvoline and a few others) in GroupIII wasn't really a syn, it was just severely hydrocracked cracked Dino and many folks were really angry that they were allowed to be called "Synthetic". I also remember folks returning the same OA results from the GroupII High-Moly Havoline as the "GroupIII" Hydro-Cracked "Synthetics" from Castro and Valvoline. Group 4 was something else again (M-1 before they went GroupIII Dino, admitted only under great duress by the folks here if I recall). Group 5 base oils were to be the holy grail, gas-to-liquid pure base stocks. Now they're erasing the GroupIII and III+ as if it never even happened? Ah well. Interesting reads. The ebb and flow of opinion, UOA and gobbledygook from the oil companies makes your head spin if you watch and read. It's all good.

As for extended drains, they make VERY clear that Shell doesn't set drain intervals. We as owners do that per the manufacturer and of course, our own whims. Clean? Not sure how we're to tell without dismantling the engine. I suppose if the varnish disappears from the dipstick and also whatever varnish you can see from the fill-hole, the Ultra, absent a tear down, is an engine scrubber.

Meanwhile, the miracle of gas-to-liquid finally came to pass. Use with confidence, as they say. Except I probably won't bother with my 2004 2.5 Subaru 4, because in the end, a Wix and 7500 mile drain intervals on dino is honestly, good enough.

Anyone have a case of Dino Havoline 5W-20 in SL or SM in their stash they wanna sell?
 
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Time to take the 4 year old oils that were in 100 degree heat for 4 summers in a shed back to walmart. "I don't have the receipt", and back they go on the shelf.
 
Originally Posted By: Concours14
Hey Mola..

The claim is compared against the "toughest API standard" at 65%. The 40 or 45% claim is against the original GroupIII+ (except it isn't, so they said) Platinum. Years ago here, the rage was that Dino Syns (Valvoline and a few others) in GroupIII wasn't really a syn, it was just severely hydrocracked cracked Dino and many folks were really angry that they were allowed to be called "Synthetic". I also remember folks returning the same OA results from the GroupII High-Moly Havoline as the "GroupIII" Hydro-Cracked "Synthetics" from Castro and Valvoline. Group 4 was something else again (M-1 before they went GroupIII Dino, admitted only under great duress by the folks here if I recall). Group 5 base oils were to be the holy grail, gas-to-liquid pure base stocks. Now they're erasing the GroupIII and III+ as if it never even happened? Ah well. Interesting reads. The ebb and flow of opinion, UOA and gobbledygook from the oil companies makes your head spin if you watch and read. It's all good.

As for extended drains, they make VERY clear that Shell doesn't set drain intervals. We as owners do that per the manufacturer and of course, our own whims. Clean? Not sure how we're to tell without dismantling the engine. I suppose if the varnish disappears from the dipstick and also whatever varnish you can see from the fill-hole, the Ultra, absent a tear down, is an engine scrubber.

Meanwhile, the miracle of gas-to-liquid finally came to pass. Use with confidence, as they say. Except I probably won't bother with my 2004 2.5 Subaru 4, because in the end, a Wix and 7500 mile drain intervals on dino is honestly, good enough.

Anyone have a case of Dino Havoline 5W-20 in SL or SM in their stash they wanna sell?
So Mobil-1 is now group 3 then what is the best on the market these days ? Is the Platinum extra the best on the market now ?
 
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