All-Synthetic Oil Filter Media made of what?
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Yes, glass fibers. I know Royal Purple claims "micro-glass", yet there must be a structural matrix of polymeric plastic fibers at least holding the fragile brittle glass fibers in place. Guessing. Kind of like the way glass fibers are mixed in with cellulose paper fibers, the cellulose adds strength there.
I just don't think you could make an oil filter media out of just glass fibers alone. Anybody know?
I just don't think you could make an oil filter media out of just glass fibers alone. Anybody know?
They get the material from plumbers. They make it out of hair that gets caught in bathroom sink drains.
If you get it from plumbers, it's pre-sludged!
When I saw this picture yesterday, it reminded me of drain hair - seriously.
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Well - it depends upon how you define "synthetic" media ...
You know, because real synthetic media is "better" than fake synthetic media. Wait - no - that's oil. But I thought I remember hearing paper is better than plastic because it's better for the environment????
Tell me why this important again ????
You know, because real synthetic media is "better" than fake synthetic media. Wait - no - that's oil. But I thought I remember hearing paper is better than plastic because it's better for the environment????
Tell me why this important again ????
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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Well - it depends upon how you define "synthetic" media ...
You know, because real synthetic media is "better" than fake synthetic media. Wait - no - that's oil. But I thought I remember hearing paper is better than plastic because it's better for the environment????
Tell me why this important again ????
Cut out the sarcastic comments. Its "important" because I'm curious when it comes to engineering the media. Satisfied with that? .... One example: Is it "important" that Yokohama used walnut shell pieces in their winter tires? I guess that would bore you. To me its cool.
Well - it depends upon how you define "synthetic" media ...
You know, because real synthetic media is "better" than fake synthetic media. Wait - no - that's oil. But I thought I remember hearing paper is better than plastic because it's better for the environment????
Tell me why this important again ????
Cut out the sarcastic comments. Its "important" because I'm curious when it comes to engineering the media. Satisfied with that? .... One example: Is it "important" that Yokohama used walnut shell pieces in their winter tires? I guess that would bore you. To me its cool.
dnewton3, Also, it may be important to use glass and polymer fibers to avoid the tearing (ie, Purolator scandal) and also avoid the cellulose fibers absorbing oil and elongating. Also, dirt holding ability is higher with synthetic media than cellulose. If you aren't interested, I don't care.
Originally Posted By: FetchFar
dnewton3, Also, it may be important to use glass and polymer fibers to avoid the tearing (ie, Purolator scandal) and also avoid the cellulose fibers absorbing oil and elongating. Also, dirt holding ability is higher with synthetic media than cellulose. If you aren't interested, I don't care.
Well designed and manufactured paper filters don't have any problem with the things you listed.
dnewton3, Also, it may be important to use glass and polymer fibers to avoid the tearing (ie, Purolator scandal) and also avoid the cellulose fibers absorbing oil and elongating. Also, dirt holding ability is higher with synthetic media than cellulose. If you aren't interested, I don't care.
Well designed and manufactured paper filters don't have any problem with the things you listed.
Originally Posted By: hatt
.Well designed and manufactured paper filters don't have any problem with the things you listed.
Are you saying the dirt holding capability is the same in a cellulose vs. synthetic/synth-blends then? That was one of my points. ... You can say the oil absorption and tearing problems are not just due to all-cellulose designs, maybe....
.Well designed and manufactured paper filters don't have any problem with the things you listed.
Are you saying the dirt holding capability is the same in a cellulose vs. synthetic/synth-blends then? That was one of my points. ... You can say the oil absorption and tearing problems are not just due to all-cellulose designs, maybe....
Originally Posted By: hatt
If you're clogging up paper filters with dirt and engine parts I suggest you make sure your AAA is up to date. So what if syn filters hold more if you don't need it.
We are enthusiasts here and want the best, most reserve capacity, thats "what". You never know when your engine might need it, can't predict the future.
If you're clogging up paper filters with dirt and engine parts I suggest you make sure your AAA is up to date. So what if syn filters hold more if you don't need it.
We are enthusiasts here and want the best, most reserve capacity, thats "what". You never know when your engine might need it, can't predict the future.
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Originally Posted By: hatt
If you're clogging up paper filters with dirt and engine parts I suggest you make sure your AAA is up to date. So what if syn filters hold more if you don't need it.
We are enthusiasts here and want the best, most reserve capacity, thats "what". You never know when your engine might need it, can't predict the future.
Then just buy a Fram Ultra and use it for 15K miles. Email Motorking and ask him if he can give out any details on the make-up of the Ultra synthetic media. I'm betting it's probably proprietary info.
Originally Posted By: hatt
If you're clogging up paper filters with dirt and engine parts I suggest you make sure your AAA is up to date. So what if syn filters hold more if you don't need it.
We are enthusiasts here and want the best, most reserve capacity, thats "what". You never know when your engine might need it, can't predict the future.
Then just buy a Fram Ultra and use it for 15K miles. Email Motorking and ask him if he can give out any details on the make-up of the Ultra synthetic media. I'm betting it's probably proprietary info.
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