Hennessy Venom GT - 270 MPH

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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
I will say here what I said in the other thread about him. I wonder how many Viper owners he screwed over to make this car.


What do you mean by that?


http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/supercars-can-bite-as-hard-as-they-can-run

Even if I was Richie Rich, I would never give that scam artist a penny.


I remember reading the Viper forums at all the disgruntled Viper owners who got shafted by Hennessey. And if any automotive journalist want access to him, all questions are off limits about what he did.


If I were accused of fraud, I certainly wouldn't talk to the press about it.
 
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
@ :31 you can see they add Pennzoil "Ultra Platinum." Anybody ever heard of it?

Yes, we have.
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Well, please do tell!

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...Plu#Post3279541

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...um?#Post3268580
 
Originally Posted By: john_pifer


If I were accused of fraud, I certainly wouldn't talk to the press about it.


There's a video on Youtube where some guy asks him about how he screwed over so many people and John starts messing with the radio and basically gets all froggy and closes the door; he's sitting in a Venom GT.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: john_pifer


If I were accused of fraud, I certainly wouldn't talk to the press about it.


There's a video on Youtube where some guy asks him about how he screwed over so many people and John starts messing with the radio and basically gets all froggy and closes the door; he's sitting in a Venom GT.


What's your point?

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to know that it's unwise to discuss pending litigation.
 
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Hennessey's Vipers are fast, but lawsuits say he serves them up too slowly.

Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued. Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.

According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.

Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.

“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”

Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:

On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.

William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.

Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.

Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.

Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.

Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.

Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.

“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.

Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”

Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.

“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.”

Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT


I remember reading the Viper forums at all the disgruntled Viper owners who got shafted by Hennessey. And if any automotive journalist want access to him, all questions are off limits about what he did.


A lot of performance shops have issues with not finishing projects on time (which is still no excuse for Hennessey). If I was spending over $100k for upgrades I sure as [censored] wouldn't pay it all upfront... and I would at least have some sort of written agreement explaining exactly what I am getting, and when I will receive it by.
 
Originally Posted By: GumbyJarvis
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Hennessey's Vipers are fast, but lawsuits say he serves them up too slowly.

Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued. Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.

According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.

Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.

“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”

Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:

On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.

William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.

Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.

Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.

Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.

Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.

Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.

“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.

Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”

Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.

“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.”

Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”



Wow. That's dirty.
I've seen Hennessy in magazines and stuff and it just goes to show you it doesn't matter at what level a car salesman is at he's still a car salesman.
Cannibalizing cars for parts is just dirty.
I feel bad for the guys who poured all their money into their dream car and ended up with a nightmare.
 
Originally Posted By: john_pifer
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: john_pifer


If I were accused of fraud, I certainly wouldn't talk to the press about it.


There's a video on Youtube where some guy asks him about how he screwed over so many people and John starts messing with the radio and basically gets all froggy and closes the door; he's sitting in a Venom GT.


What's your point?

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to know that it's unwise to discuss pending litigation.


My point is, he's an [censored] and he knows it. Why are you defending him?
 
Originally Posted By: whip
Carrol Shelby was a terrible person, and no one seemed to care.


They did trust me. There was a lot of hate in the Mustang world for what he did, just when the new GT500 came out, all the people that wanted a Shelby when they were teenagers and had not been in the Mustang scene since the 70s became fanboys. The "Gone in 60 Seconds" remake didn't help either. If I had bought a new GT500, I would have the SHELBY lettering removed before I drove it off the lot. He did literally nothing on the new GT500s, except put his name on it and collect a check from Ford.
 
Yawn someone should tell him the top speed wars are over and have moved on. For what he charges for those cars you can buy a better one.

He was on Jay Leno's garage trying to get like a million bucks for this thing, some idiot will probably pay it. Its been around for awhile I guess he finally figured out how to screw a few more MPH out of it.
 
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I am almost certain I met the guy in this vid at the Florida Mile a few years back. They were shaking down a Ford GT with turbos AND a supercharger. Man, what a car!
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I am almost certain I met the guy in this vid at the Florida Mile a few years back. They were shaking down a Ford GT with turbos AND a supercharger. Man, what a car!


It used to have a twin turbo/PD supercharger combo, but the s/c itself became was a restriction so it's turbo only now. J. Mihovetz is doing the engines for the car.
 
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I am almost certain I met the guy in this vid at the Florida Mile a few years back. They were shaking down a Ford GT with turbos AND a supercharger. Man, what a car!


It used to have a twin turbo/PD supercharger combo, but the s/c itself became was a restriction so it's turbo only now. J. Mihovetz is doing the engines for the car.


Always wondered how the SC could not be a restriction and a power drag as well. If all you want is peak power then a turbo can be hard to beat, but I guess the mechanical blower is a better bet for the street if you want some civility...
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I am almost certain I met the guy in this vid at the Florida Mile a few years back. They were shaking down a Ford GT with turbos AND a supercharger. Man, what a car!


It used to have a twin turbo/PD supercharger combo, but the s/c itself became was a restriction so it's turbo only now. J. Mihovetz is doing the engines for the car.


Always wondered how the SC could not be a restriction and a power drag as well. If all you want is peak power then a turbo can be hard to beat, but I guess the mechanical blower is a better bet for the street if you want some civility...


Even stock Ford GTs are an absolute blast to drive. I got to drive a couple and got driven around Buttonwillow by a Ford factory driver at a SVTOA event. I would totally buy one if I could find a decent one for under $250k. Literally all I would want to do to it would be the Borla rear exit headers and I would be a happy camper.
 
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