2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil

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Originally Posted By: m37charlie
Where I live diesel is a few cents more than mid octane gasoline and cheaper than the highest octane gasoline.

OT, but in your neck of the woods, do you get a seasonal difference in diesel prices? Here, diesel is cheaper than gasoline in the summer, but when fall hits, the price of diesel jumps above that of gas (but usually still less than premium).
 
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: pavelow


Calling a diesel ENGINE a motor. LMAO.


LOL, engine = motor.

Like electric locomotive engine and motor boat.


Why, haven't you ever heard of an engine boat lol?
 
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: pavelow


Calling a diesel ENGINE a motor. LMAO.


LOL, engine = motor.

Like electric locomotive engine and motor boat.


Maybe we should rename this category in the forum since it's titled "Passenger Car Motor Oil". We could rename it to "Passenger Car Engine Oil".
 
Originally Posted By: stchman
The Cruze diesel gets better fuel economy than a Cruze Eco, and most people report that they are getting ~50MPG on the highway with a Cruze diesel and some are lucky to get the 42MPG that the Cruze Eco gets.


Thats interesting because those people obviously have never heard of or reported their mileage to Fuelly.com :
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/2014

There is like 1 person with a 2014 Cruze Diesel who is reporting 51.1mpg average. The rest of the diesel engine owners are averaging mid-low 40's and below.

As a matter of fact, the majority of people with the Cruze diesel are reporting 39-40mpg or less - Hardly the 50mpg+ like you assert "most people" are reporting getting.
 
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Originally Posted By: stchman
The Cruze diesel gets better fuel economy than a Cruze Eco, and most people report that they are getting ~50MPG on the highway with a Cruze diesel and some are lucky to get the 42MPG that the Cruze Eco gets.


Thats interesting because those people obviously have never heard of or reported their mileage to Fuelly.com :
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/2014

There is like 1 person with a 2014 Cruze Diesel who is reporting 51.1mpg average. The rest of the diesel engine owners are averaging mid-low 40's and below.

As a matter of fact, the majority of people with the Cruze diesel are reporting 39-40mpg or less - Hardly the 50mpg+ like you assert "most people" are reporting getting.


Not to be nitpicky, but it is possible they're getting 50MPG on the highway as stchman said compared to the other Cruze models. I assume the numbers presented on Fuelly are some combination of city/highway driving. Thus, if you compare the combined MPGs using gas vs diesel, you still tend to see the diesel models with higher average MPG which is likely being pulled upwards due to the highway cruising efficiency of a diesel. Additionally, you said "the majority of people" are reporting 39-40MPG or less. In fact, based on the link you provided, it's about 50/50 for people who have below 40MPG vs above 40MPG.
 
Originally Posted By: [email protected]
Originally Posted By: stchman
The Cruze diesel gets better fuel economy than a Cruze Eco, and most people report that they are getting ~50MPG on the highway with a Cruze diesel and some are lucky to get the 42MPG that the Cruze Eco gets.


Thats interesting because those people obviously have never heard of or reported their mileage to Fuelly.com :
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/2014

There is like 1 person with a 2014 Cruze Diesel who is reporting 51.1mpg average. The rest of the diesel engine owners are averaging mid-low 40's and below.

As a matter of fact, the majority of people with the Cruze diesel are reporting 39-40mpg or less - Hardly the 50mpg+ like you assert "most people" are reporting getting.

Yes, I love Fuelly to see how the cars I'm looking at perform at the pump.
Looks like around 30.8 for 2014 gas engines.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/gas l4
and 41.3 for the 2014 diesel
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/diesel l4
That's 34% better mileage for the diesel.

ROD
 
Originally Posted By: rrounds
Yes, I love Fuelly to see how the cars I'm looking at perform at the pump.
Looks like around 30.8 for 2014 gas engines.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/gas l4
and 41.3 for the 2014 diesel
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/diesel l4
That's 34% better mileage for the diesel.

ROD


One thing I noticed looking at these two links is the size of the datasets on the above links are much different:
2014 gas are 7 cars, 30 fuelups, and 8,300 miles tracked
2014 diesel are 23 cars, 222 fuelups, 95,000 miles

There may be some other factors at work - particularly talking about a dataset of 7 gas engines (miles on the car, drivers adjusting, to new cars, error from small dataset). The gas engines mpg estimates for 2013 and 2012 were 33.4 and 33.7 respectively.

The gas dataset is also going to have a variety of models which have EPA estimates as well as the different estimates for manual versus auto transmission.

I would think for the gas estimates any LS Auto is going to skew the average way down while the ECO Manual would bring it up, but then driving conditions would have to be accounted for too...I've seen the same debate brought up on the LS versus 1LT versus Eco cost to purchase vertsus cost of gas over he lifetime of the vehicle, at least to me it never seems a clear cut answer.
 
Originally Posted By: rrounds

Yes, I love Fuelly to see how the cars I'm looking at perform at the pump.
Looks like around 30.8 for 2014 gas engines.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/gas l4
and 41.3 for the 2014 diesel
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/diesel l4
That's 34% better mileage for the diesel.

ROD


ROD, Looking at the 2014 data from fuelly.com, its easy to see that 41.3mpg isn't for just diesel Cruzes, but ALL 2014's. Doh!

And the highest Cruze mpg from a diesel was 51.1mpg. But oops! That person is from Canada, eh? Imperial gallons. 51.1 IMPERIAL gallons = 42mpg in US gallons.

Anyways, moving forward...
 
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Originally Posted By: rrounds

Yes, I love Fuelly to see how the cars I'm looking at perform at the pump.
Looks like around 30.8 for 2014 gas engines.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/gas l4
and 41.3 for the 2014 diesel
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/diesel l4
That's 34% better mileage for the diesel.

ROD


ROD, Looking at the 2014 data from fuelly.com, its easy to see that 41.3mpg isn't for just diesel Cruzes, but ALL 2014's. Doh!

And the highest Cruze mpg from a diesel was 51.1mpg. But oops! That person is from Canada, eh? Imperial gallons. 51.1 IMPERIAL gallons = 42mpg in US gallons.

Anyways, moving forward...

You better look again, it says 23 diesel cars and if you count you will find 23 diesel Cruzes. The mpg is just for the diesel Cruze cars. If you add the gas engines the mpg will go down, not up.

ROD
 
So the diesel engine uses less fuel....
How much are people spending on DEF? If the car requires a large amount of it, it would make a huge difference in cost per mile.
 
Originally Posted By: [email protected]
So people will:

1.) Pay a premium for a diesel engine in the Cruze

2.) Pay anywhere from $.25-$.60 MORE per gallon for diesel over gasoline here in Michigan

3.) Have to buy Dexos2 oil at the dealer for $6-$8+ per QUART

What are the economic advantages of opting for a diesel engine over the gasoline engine they put in the Cruze Eco again?
Originally Posted By: cruzediesel
One more quick thing. It also states in the manual that 0w30 can be used in cold temperatures to ease engine startup.


Aren't they a really low emissions engine.

Originally Posted By: cruzediesel
One more quick thing. It also states in the manual that 0w30 can be used in cold temperatures to ease engine startup.



I wonder if devlac elite 222 0w-30 is on their approved list?
 
Originally Posted By: [email protected]
And the highest Cruze mpg from a diesel was 51.1mpg. But oops! That person is from Canada, eh? Imperial gallons. 51.1 IMPERIAL gallons = 42mpg in US gallons.

Anyways, moving forward...


I was in Canada last August, and bought fuel by the liter, not Imperial Gallons.
 
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: [email protected]
And the highest Cruze mpg from a diesel was 51.1mpg. But oops! That person is from Canada, eh? Imperial gallons. 51.1 IMPERIAL gallons = 42mpg in US gallons.

Anyways, moving forward...


I was in Canada last August, and bought fuel by the liter, not Imperial Gallons.


Correct, we don't use gallons. And when we convert from L/100Km to gallons we can certainly choose to do either Imperial or US gallons, it really isn't that difficult.... Its not like we are ONLY allowed to convert to Imperial or something
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LOL!
 
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
What do most people think of in Canada when converting to gallons, standard or Imperial?


US gallons AFAIK. Nobody uses Imperial.
 
Canadian dealers typically cheat a bit by posting miles in imperial gal (4.5L/Gal) to get a more impressive fuel mileage chart on their car lots.

If it's go with Litres/km...then the reflected fuel mileage should be accurate so long as the proper US gal/mile to km conversion is done correctly.

Q.
 
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
US gallons AFAIK. Nobody uses Imperial.

Well, there are some. If it's an old codger who bought gas when it was still sold in Imperial gallons (I am not one of those, by the way
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), then they'll use Imperial gallons. My Town Car, however, used American gallons if I switched off of metric.
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
So the diesel engine uses less fuel....
How much are people spending on DEF? If the car requires a large amount of it, it would make a huge difference in cost per mile.

I have no idea how much DEF the Cruze will use, but I've found it for $4.50 a gal.
My big concern is how long will the engine and drivetrain last?

If you have to rebuild the transmission every 100k miles, then its not cost effective. I like to see how the repair record goes for a car for the first few years before I put my cash down on a vehicle.

If the Cruze diesel gets good marks for reliability then it's resale will be higher than the gas model(with the same miles) to get you more money on the back side when you sell it.

ROD
 
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