why people hate ford?

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it is good to see that the opinion is not onsided. some of the vehicles I am aware my colleagues own

toyota fjcruiser
subaru outback
toyota sienna x 2
volvo xc60
lexus rx350
acura mdx x 3
 
Driving old Ford Taurus were meh cars at best. Sorry but its true. They did nothing special or look special for anyone. Just a rental,fleet car and average transportation.

Ford does make nice full-size trucks and always seemed to.
 
No more Fords in my family after the way Ford treated my father when the frame broke in half on his just out of warranty Ranger 4x4.
Fords response was NE winters and salt. Not even $1 off a new truck.

Toyota was buying back Tacoma trucks much older than his Ford to make good on rotten frames made by the same supplier.

Its not the vehicle, every vehicle can have trouble but its the way the manufacturer handles it down the road.
Toyota handles legit problems quickly and fairly, Ford tells you to go scratch your behind with a broken bottle.
 
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I personally never owned a Ford,but everyone I know who has,has had nothing but lemons.


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No disrespect to current Ford owners (gf has an 07 V6 Mustang that's been GREAT!!)


So everyone you know with a Ford hasn't ended up with a lemon after all.
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Brand new Focus,engine and tranny both fell to pieces,replaced under warranty.


Define "fell to pieces".

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Brand new 07 V6 Mustang,rear diff fell off on the interstate,replaced under warranty.


I've seen decently maintained Ford 7.5s last a very long time.

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His wife's brand new Escape,engine fell to pieces,replaced under warranty.


I'm sure there's more to the story on these engines "falling to pieces". What engine? What model year Escape?
 
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Anybody that praises current Toyotas and Hondas and bashes domestics is a clueless clown, plain and simple.


Precisely
 
I'll probably take some heat for this, but my experience with newer Ford engines, especially aluminum cylinder heads, is enough for me to steer clear-modulars launching spark plugs, chunks of aluminum falling off 1.6 Escort heads, valve seats falling off 1.9 Escort heads, and blown head gaskets at low mileages. Add the tendency of the dealers to "gloss over" problems (until they're out of warranty & can make big $ off the issues)-NO THANKS!
 
I have a ford and a aveo... whatever the aveo is... both have been maintained by me and still going strong. In the future I would ignore all brand names and hype and get the car I like the most, american or elsewhere.
 
I have had nothing but good luck with Ford.
Having a good experience and no major issues is a matter of luck with any car.

maintenance has a LOT to do with it.

I still believe the stigma from the 70's that American cars would last forever and need little to no maintenance has been pass down through generations.
Not many people follow the owners manuals for recommended services, they get services when they break or make a noise that doesn't go away in 200 miles.

Some people just drive their car right into the ground and complain when it breaks.
I can attest to people taking the most insane shortcuts to get around fixing something for whatever reason which is their own.
their shortcuts may never affect them, but if it does, they're sure to blame the car or mfgr.

Another version is the person doing the work. Some kid working at rippy lube isn't qualified to check for much. If you're a quickie luber, are you ever going to get your brakes checked? Not until they're squealing and chattering at you.
Even at a dealership, if the tech doesn't care or is having a bad day, he may decide to take a shortcut, same with an indy shop. it boils down to the person doing the work, NOT always the dealership itself or even the Mfgr.
BUT someone has to be blamed, usually it'll be the Mfgr first.
Same goes for lack of general understanding of automobiles.
I believe autoshop should be a mandatory class in high school, just so you get the basic idea of things.
I had a woman come in and tell me she'd never buy a BMW again because the alignment again because it costed $130 at an indy shop. How many times did you have it aligned? OH this is the first.
So she IMHO shunns and bad mouths BMW because an indy shop is charging her 35% more because it's a BMW and has to be aligned differently.

I don't buy into the bad brands line, but don't get me started with isuzu or mitsubishi.
 
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Only thing I know about American cars is that they're not made of American made parts. Were they ever? Are the foreign parts on US cars a *new* thing??


This isn't exactly accurate.

You can find the US/Canadian content of cars here:
http://www.nhtsa.gov/Laws+&+Regulations/Part+583+American+Automobile+Labeling+Act+%28AALA%29+Reports

Take a look and you'll see there are American cars with a lot of American content, there are Japanese cars built in the US with a lot of American content, there are American cars built in Mexico with little US content, etc.
 
No comment re: why people hate ford.

But, this thread was a bad idea. It's going to bring out all of the trolls.

I'm going to
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every single part that has failed on my Mazda has been emblazoned with the Ford logo

Thermostat housing, seatbelt catch, and 6 coils.

The thermostat housing is identical to the Fusion's. The coils are identical to the Duratec Taurus/Sable. I don't know what the seatbelt catch is used on, but it says "FoMoCo" on it.

No Aisin or Denso parts have failed as of yet.
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I do not necessarily agree with Ford's management decisions. Dumping Mazda which had served as the deFacto "Ford Japan" arm of the company and going to the European Ford models. Joke's on them. I do not recall the Euro-Fusion winning any comparisons. Accord wins, Passat wins, and ... wait for it ... Mazda6 for the winners.

Would I buy a Ford? Yeah, probably. A Mustang most likely. Based on my history with Mustangs, it would have to be a bad one.
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But it would be the shiniest best maintained bad Mustang on the block.
 
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
every single part that has failed on my Mazda has been emblazoned with the Ford logo

Thermostat housing, seatbelt catch, and 6 coils.

The thermostat housing is identical to the Fusion's. The coils are identical to the Duratec Taurus/Sable. I don't know what the seatbelt catch is used on, but it says "FoMoCo" on it.

No Aisin or Denso parts have failed as of yet.
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My Mom had a '96 Nissan Quest (Ford/Nissan JV) back in the day, every part that failed on that van was emblazoned with a Nissan logo.
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A good friend worked in a joint Ford/Mazda dealer for years, there was always an RX-8 in there for something, usually for engine work/replacement. Given how few RX-8s are actually out there, perhaps Mazda should have swapped over to a Ford V6 in that car too. The RX-8 would be so much more reliable (and faster, and more economical) with a Ford Cyclone V6 instead of the Wankel.
 
Originally Posted By: Zaedock
People hate everything.
Not everything-it may be uglier than sin & built like a pop can on wheels, but the xB in my sig is now over 8 1/2 years old and has had ONE problem-a failed RR power window motor. I've had to replace wear items (tires, brakes, battery, oil changes & AFs)-but that's ALL! (And if it makes the Ford people any happier, the 1st Toyota dealer couldn't figure that out on the first try either!)
 
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Originally Posted By: Zaedock
People hate everything.
Not everything-it may be uglier than sin & built like a pop can on wheels, but the xB in my sig is now over 8 1/2 years old and has had ONE problem-a failed RR power window motor. I've had to replace wear items (tires, brakes, battery, oil changes & AFs)-but that's ALL! (And if it makes the Ford people any happier, the 1st Toyota dealer couldn't figure that out on the first try either!)


So the xB has been almost as reliable as the Fords in my immediate family.
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We've had one Ford over the past thirty years.
It was as reliable and as durable as any vehicle we've ever owned.
There are "experts" and there are those of us who've done many miles in many vehicles maintained by ourselves over the years.
Nothing wrong with Ford, just as there's nothing wrong with Mercedes, Hyundai, Chevrolet or Honda.
There is a lot wrong with many owner's maintenance practices, though.
 
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