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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
As a cleaner, Seafoam works reasonably well. That's what you get with something based on stoddard solvent.... a cleaner.
As a lubricant, well, I'm betting it is no better than WD40 based on the addition of bright stock to the stoddard solvent.
Who said Seafoam was to be used as a lubricant? Just because some of us talk about adding it to the crankcase doesn't mean it is being added as a lubricant.
Well, the role of what goes in the crankcase is to lubricate the engine, hence, lubricant. So, if you are using Seafoam in the crankcase, it is being used as a lubricant.
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Seafoam is a cleaner. moisture remover, and fuel stabilizer period and end of story.
Seafoam is stoddard solvent and bright stock with a hint of wintergreen for fragrance. Dress it up all you want, it is very similar to WD40. But I don't see people on here claiming that WD40 should be put in your crankcase.
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Haven't seen anyone say otherwise. Just because it isn't oil however does not mean it will harm the engine if used properly.
The fact that it isn't oil is the exact reason as to why it shouldn't be used in the crankcase.
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Have you ever used it in your crankcase and had it do something bad?
No, because I don't put things that aren't oil in my crankcase.
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Ever used it in there ever?
See above.
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If not then why are you telling others not to or cracking wise about those of us that have?
1. Manufacturers specify to not put things that aren't oil in the crankcase.
2. In a device that is pressure and boundary lubricated the only thing I want circulating in that device is a lubricant designed to do just that.
3. If somebody spins a rod bearing on a car under warranty because they thinned their already thin 5w20 with Seafoam in search for its magical abilities and the manufacturer voids their warranty and they are on the hook for a new engine, is Seafoam going to buy them a new engine? Are you?
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Many of us have used it in the crankcase, and done so for years and years, with nothing but great results. Believe it or not many of us are just as anal about our vehicles as you are.
I would never advocate the use of any product that could potentially void somebody's warranty when used in the crankcase. That's my position and it is a safe (and admittedly conservative) one.
Seafoam through the vacuum line, as a piston soak, as a cleaner....etc, those uses I am perfectly fine with and with people recommending them.
If you never have used it then your opinion means little. Especially to those who have.
I didn't say I haven't used it. I said I haven't used it in my crankcase and gave a rather in depth explanation as to why. If you want to run horse pee in your crankcase, go right ahead. Just keep in mind if you start telling people that it is a good idea, I'm going to post the same thing about horse pee.
This isn't about seafoam, it is about putting things that don't belong in the crankcase, in the crankcase. And ALL of the auto manufacturers agree with me on this stance, so it isn't like I'm forging ahead with this crusade on my own with no basis for my argument........
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
As a cleaner, Seafoam works reasonably well. That's what you get with something based on stoddard solvent.... a cleaner.
As a lubricant, well, I'm betting it is no better than WD40 based on the addition of bright stock to the stoddard solvent.
Who said Seafoam was to be used as a lubricant? Just because some of us talk about adding it to the crankcase doesn't mean it is being added as a lubricant.
Well, the role of what goes in the crankcase is to lubricate the engine, hence, lubricant. So, if you are using Seafoam in the crankcase, it is being used as a lubricant.
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Seafoam is a cleaner. moisture remover, and fuel stabilizer period and end of story.
Seafoam is stoddard solvent and bright stock with a hint of wintergreen for fragrance. Dress it up all you want, it is very similar to WD40. But I don't see people on here claiming that WD40 should be put in your crankcase.
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Haven't seen anyone say otherwise. Just because it isn't oil however does not mean it will harm the engine if used properly.
The fact that it isn't oil is the exact reason as to why it shouldn't be used in the crankcase.
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Have you ever used it in your crankcase and had it do something bad?
No, because I don't put things that aren't oil in my crankcase.
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Ever used it in there ever?
See above.
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If not then why are you telling others not to or cracking wise about those of us that have?
1. Manufacturers specify to not put things that aren't oil in the crankcase.
2. In a device that is pressure and boundary lubricated the only thing I want circulating in that device is a lubricant designed to do just that.
3. If somebody spins a rod bearing on a car under warranty because they thinned their already thin 5w20 with Seafoam in search for its magical abilities and the manufacturer voids their warranty and they are on the hook for a new engine, is Seafoam going to buy them a new engine? Are you?
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Many of us have used it in the crankcase, and done so for years and years, with nothing but great results. Believe it or not many of us are just as anal about our vehicles as you are.
I would never advocate the use of any product that could potentially void somebody's warranty when used in the crankcase. That's my position and it is a safe (and admittedly conservative) one.
Seafoam through the vacuum line, as a piston soak, as a cleaner....etc, those uses I am perfectly fine with and with people recommending them.
If you never have used it then your opinion means little. Especially to those who have.
I didn't say I haven't used it. I said I haven't used it in my crankcase and gave a rather in depth explanation as to why. If you want to run horse pee in your crankcase, go right ahead. Just keep in mind if you start telling people that it is a good idea, I'm going to post the same thing about horse pee.
This isn't about seafoam, it is about putting things that don't belong in the crankcase, in the crankcase. And ALL of the auto manufacturers agree with me on this stance, so it isn't like I'm forging ahead with this crusade on my own with no basis for my argument........