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#2795875 - 11/07/12 06:16 PM Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 4632
Loc: Florida
Vehicle:
2006 Scion tC 2.4L 5 speed.

Oil:
Valvoline NextGen 5w30 Conventional.

Oil additives:
None

Make up oil added: One (1) quart was added during the run.


Engine oil capacity:
4.1qts

Oil filter:
TINY Mobil 1 (much smaller then the OEM filter)

Air filter:
Amsoil EA cone air filter

USE: Mostly highway/city @ 70/30. I was redlining and running the car HARD up till the sample / oil change (to get ready for winter (wanted fresh oil in the block)).

The previous oil was VNG in the same grade that i ran for 3,000 miles after using Amsoil during the previous runs. A Mobil 1 oil filter was used during the first VNG run. The same filter was reused a second time during this current run - so the oil filter has 8,000 miles on it. I drained and reinstalled the oil filter AGAIN for another 7k run (for a total of 15,000 miles, which is what the filter is rated for) and then i will gladly trash it after getting my money's worth out of it.

I started using the VNG because i have a TON of it from the FAR deals and wanted to experiment with it. I ran it for 5k to compare to the Amsoil OE that i started with last year. I'm glad to see the VNG holding up well to the abuse that i put it through on a daily basis.

For the money ($0.00) it is definitely a better value then the Amsoil oils i've been using. Right? grin2

Comments are welcomed.



Here's a few pictures of the Magnetic oil drain plug collecting all kinds of stuff...





Code:
OIL             Valvoline NextGen 5w30       
MILES IN USE    5,020 miles          
MILES           102,713    
SAMPLE TAKEN    11/03/2012
Make up Oil     1 qt

                         Universal Average
ALUMINUM        1              3 
CHROMIUM        0              1  
IRON            13             15 
COPPER          1              1
LEAD            1              1
TIN             0              1 
MOLYBDENUM      6              99   
NICKEL          0              0  
MANGANESE       0              0  
SILVER          0              0 
TITANIUM        0              0 
POTASSIUM       0              1 
BORON           6              68  
SILICON         16             19  
SODIUM          272            42
CALCIUM         1952           2748
MAGNESIUM       9              51
PHOSPHORUS      774            754
ZINC            937            841
BARIUM          0              0 
 
                            Values Should Be*
SUS VIS 210F   56.7           56-63
cSt @ 212F     9.28           9.1-11.3
FLASHPOINT F   410            >365
Fuel %          <0.5           <2.0
Antifreeze      0.0             0.0
WATER           0.0            <0.1
INSOLUBLES      0.3            <0.6
TBN             2.7            >1.0
TAN             1.7
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#2795886 - 11/07/12 06:25 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
ltslimjim Offline


Registered: 08/06/10
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Loc: WatUpDoc
Typical Valvoline conventional report. Carry on. thumbsup

PS: Yeah, I'd say a better value if gotten FAR! laugh
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#2795888 - 11/07/12 06:27 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
Azeem Offline


Registered: 03/03/12
Posts: 459
Loc: The South
Looks very good to me and for $12.XX oil change,my local WM has $3 off 5 qts. jug NG conv. and NG Max life, is really a great oil for 7500 miles in an "easy-on-oil" engine .

GL


Edited by Azeem (11/07/12 06:29 PM)
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#2795917 - 11/07/12 06:48 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Azeem]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 4632
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Azeem
Looks very good to me and for $12.XX oil change,my local WM has $3 off 5 qts. jug NG conv. and NG Max life, is really a great oil for 7500 miles in an "easy-on-oil" engine .

GL


Well the oil change really didn't even cost that much.

Oil was FREE after rebate and the M1 oil filter was $6.50 after AAP online discount code.
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#2795922 - 11/07/12 06:55 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
bourne Offline


Registered: 12/20/06
Posts: 1394
Loc: Greenwood, IN
That report looks excellent! Seems consumption is down a bit as well. I would love to see a report of Maxlife Nextgen for 7500 miles in that engine.
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#2795933 - 11/07/12 07:05 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: bourne]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 4632
Loc: Florida
I'll probably run this current fill for 7,500 since based on this report, it definitely looks possible.
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#2795977 - 11/07/12 07:31 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
Mamala Bay Offline


Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 2085
Loc: USA
At 68,000 you had 0 makeup oil after 5,000 miles. Gradual increase until 3 qts with the AZO which seems high in paying $ for a 10,000 mile OC.

Present oil 1 qt after 5000 miles. What was the history on the engine from new.

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#2795990 - 11/07/12 07:42 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
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Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 19048
Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
So, it basically performed identical to Amsoil OE?
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#2796049 - 11/07/12 08:28 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: The Critic]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 4632
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
At 68,000 you had 0 makeup oil after 5,000 miles. Gradual increase until 3 qts with the AZO which seems high in paying $ for a 10,000 mile OC.

Present oil 1 qt after 5000 miles. What was the history on the engine from new.


The very first run with Amsoil OE was without any makeup oil but the oil level was VERY low during the oil change. The dipstick was almost dry.

This engine has been burning about a quart every 5k miles for a while.

Originally Posted By: The Critic
So, it basically performed identical to Amsoil OE?


By the looks of it, yes. The OE can be had for $4.50 a quart vs the VNG @ $4-5 a quart retail.
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#2796060 - 11/07/12 08:40 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30256
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
At 68,000 you had 0 makeup oil after 5,000 miles. Gradual increase until 3 qts with the AZO which seems high in paying $ for a 10,000 mile OC.

Present oil 1 qt after 5000 miles. What was the history on the engine from new.


The very first run with Amsoil OE was without any makeup oil but the oil level was VERY low during the oil change. The dipstick was almost dry.

This engine has been burning about a quart every 5k miles for a while.

Originally Posted By: The Critic
So, it basically performed identical to Amsoil OE?


By the looks of it, yes. The OE can be had for $4.50 a quart vs the VNG @ $4-5 a quart retail.


I think in a 5qt jug it's less $.

Do you have any idea what is causing the oil consumption?
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#2796067 - 11/07/12 08:46 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: buster]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 4632
Loc: Florida
Beats me buster, perhaps it's the constant redlining, cruising @ 4,000rpm on the highway for hours on end, or just the natural design of the engine (i've seen a lot about oil burning on the interwebz with this engine).

It doesn't bother me one bit though. I check the oil every few weeks and add 1/4th quart if needed (based on the driving conditions) and call it a day. It refreshes the additives in the oil which i think is a good thing, esp if you're doing extended OCIs.
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#2796358 - 11/08/12 07:38 AM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
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Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30256
Loc: NJ
Thanks Artem, sounds like my Accord. Same exact thing. It's mostly engine design and how you drive. Sound similar.
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#2796850 - 11/08/12 04:22 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
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Registered: 08/06/10
Posts: 5505
Loc: WatUpDoc
^A lot of the high-rev japanese designed engines do this...especially when you drive them hard! laugh


Edited by ltslimjim (11/08/12 04:26 PM)
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#2797746 - 11/09/12 01:40 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
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Registered: 06/30/11
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Good 'ol Valvoline. thumbsup
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#2797780 - 11/09/12 02:29 PM Re: Valvoline NextGen 5w30 - 5,020 miles - 06 Scion tC [Re: Artem]
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Registered: 12/21/08
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Loc: London, ON, Canada
Great looking report.
I've used Nextgen conventional as well in my car, and although this is not the same engine it makes me think my UOA would probably look similar. Nice.
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