2009 GSXR600 rotella vs motul
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Originally Posted By: Gravis18
I just ran the rotella Dino for 1500km but it's already turned pretty dark
But has the shifting quality/feel degraded? Oil color alone doesn't mean much.
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Should I switch to rotella synthetic or is the motul 5100 or 300v a better choice?
Out of these two, I'd expect Motul to be more shear stable, but does it meet JASO MA spec? If so, I'd probably run it.
I just ran the rotella Dino for 1500km but it's already turned pretty dark
But has the shifting quality/feel degraded? Oil color alone doesn't mean much.
Quote:
Should I switch to rotella synthetic or is the motul 5100 or 300v a better choice?
Out of these two, I'd expect Motul to be more shear stable, but does it meet JASO MA spec? If so, I'd probably run it.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Gravis18
I just ran the rotella Dino for 1500km but it's already turned pretty dark
But has the shifting quality/feel degraded? Oil color alone doesn't mean much.
Quote:
Should I switch to rotella synthetic or is the motul 5100 or 300v a better choice?
Out of these two, I'd expect Motul to be more shear stable, but does it meet JASO MA spec? If so, I'd probably run it.
I haven't had the bike long enough to notice a difference in shifting but it is smooth and not notchy at all. My only concern is that the valvetrain may be getting slightly noisier but it could just be me paying more attention with switching oils.
The bike only has 6000miles on it so I want to make sure I am using the right oil.
Originally Posted By: Gravis18
I just ran the rotella Dino for 1500km but it's already turned pretty dark
But has the shifting quality/feel degraded? Oil color alone doesn't mean much.
Quote:
Should I switch to rotella synthetic or is the motul 5100 or 300v a better choice?
Out of these two, I'd expect Motul to be more shear stable, but does it meet JASO MA spec? If so, I'd probably run it.
I haven't had the bike long enough to notice a difference in shifting but it is smooth and not notchy at all. My only concern is that the valvetrain may be getting slightly noisier but it could just be me paying more attention with switching oils.
The bike only has 6000miles on it so I want to make sure I am using the right oil.
If money is not an issue then Motul 300V 4T is a better oil for your bike.
Depends how long between intervals you want to go, how hard you ride, in what conditions ect.
Rotella has a fine track record and is a darn good all purpose oil for shared sump bikes on shorter intervals.
Rotella has a fine track record and is a darn good all purpose oil for shared sump bikes on shorter intervals.
I ran the rotella Dino in my 4 stroke motocross bike but I changed it every weekend.
Would the synthetic rotella hold up slightly better? I would like to see the oil look clean for at least 2500kms because at soon as it turns dark my gut instinct is to drop the oil.
Would the synthetic rotella hold up slightly better? I would like to see the oil look clean for at least 2500kms because at soon as it turns dark my gut instinct is to drop the oil.
Actually the T6 Syn Rotella has shown to shear more easily in a wet clutch/shared sump system over the standard Dino.
And yes, just because an oil is dark does not mean its worn out. I have had some oils go dark in 1k miles in my car and I have some look clean after 5k.
And yes, just because an oil is dark does not mean its worn out. I have had some oils go dark in 1k miles in my car and I have some look clean after 5k.
Originally Posted By: Gravis18
I've always noticed the rotella Dino to go very dark in my motocross bike also even after a day of racing.
Why is this? Is it not better to have an oil that stays clean/clear?
No it just makes you feel better. Only bad if its dark and going out of grade. If you want, run the Rotella for however long you are comfy doing so, and have a used oil analysis done. It will tell you how fast your bike is chewing up the oil.
I've always noticed the rotella Dino to go very dark in my motocross bike also even after a day of racing.
Why is this? Is it not better to have an oil that stays clean/clear?
No it just makes you feel better. Only bad if its dark and going out of grade. If you want, run the Rotella for however long you are comfy doing so, and have a used oil analysis done. It will tell you how fast your bike is chewing up the oil.
When the oil turns dark, doesn't that generally mean the detergents are doing its job?
Originally Posted By: Errtt
When the oil turns dark, doesn't that generally mean the detergents are doing its job?
Either that or some chemicals in the oil naturally turn dark when exposed to high temps. Again, no cause for concern.
BTW, in diesel engines, oil will turn dark within first 100 miles. Doesn't mean it's not longer working.
When the oil turns dark, doesn't that generally mean the detergents are doing its job?
Either that or some chemicals in the oil naturally turn dark when exposed to high temps. Again, no cause for concern.
BTW, in diesel engines, oil will turn dark within first 100 miles. Doesn't mean it's not longer working.
When your shifting becomes notchy, that's usually a good indicator that you should change your oil, regardless if it's mineral or synthetic. Depending on a particular engine and how hard you ride it, some people make it to 3K miles (5k km) on Rotella dino before that happens. I would expect an oil like Motul 300V to go even longer.
FYI, I've got about 2K miles on Rotella in my Vulcan right now and all is well, but the two engines aren't exactly apples to apples.
FYI, I've got about 2K miles on Rotella in my Vulcan right now and all is well, but the two engines aren't exactly apples to apples.
Our 3 Gixxer 600 track bikes really work well with the maxima ultra stuff.
There has been some great UOA of the maxima oils done by member Sunrah.
There has been some great UOA of the maxima oils done by member Sunrah.
Originally Posted By: Gravis18
Alright so irrespective of cost what is the best oil to run?
Rotella Dino
Rotella synthetic
Motul 300v
Motul 300v has more than 30 World Champion titles and victories at all the major events. Rotella has never won a professional motorcycle race. You do the math.
Alright so irrespective of cost what is the best oil to run?
Rotella Dino
Rotella synthetic
Motul 300v
Motul 300v has more than 30 World Champion titles and victories at all the major events. Rotella has never won a professional motorcycle race. You do the math.
Originally Posted By: azsynthetic
Originally Posted By: Gravis18
Alright so irrespective of cost what is the best oil to run?
Rotella Dino
Rotella synthetic
Motul 300v
Motul 300v has more than 30 World Champion titles and victories at all the major events. Rotella has never won a professional motorcycle race. You do the math.
And they used to put STP in all those race cars, too.
Originally Posted By: Gravis18
Alright so irrespective of cost what is the best oil to run?
Rotella Dino
Rotella synthetic
Motul 300v
Motul 300v has more than 30 World Champion titles and victories at all the major events. Rotella has never won a professional motorcycle race. You do the math.
And they used to put STP in all those race cars, too.
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If you're not doing long track days on your gixxer, try them all and decide for yourself which one provides smoother shifting.
I decided I don't like T6 as much as PC Duron XL in my SV650.
I decided I don't like T6 as much as PC Duron XL in my SV650.
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
And they used to put STP in all those race cars, too.
Off topic and wrong forum.
And they used to put STP in all those race cars, too.
Off topic and wrong forum.
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