Motul oil composition (MSDS links inside)

[Scuderia]

Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me what these oils are made out of? I've heard the MSDS can tell you if they're GIII, PAO, Ester, etc. BTW I don't plan on running any of these oils. They're just too pricey, and I'm perfectly happy with PU, but I just want to see if the composition justifies the price.

Motul 8100 Eco-Nergy 5W30: http://www.quickfds.com/out/16259-32963-13415-013299.pdf

Motul 300V 5W30: http://www.quickfds.com/out/16259-33034-13415-011873.pdf

 

[dparm]

They have dialed back the group V content on some oils. 300V is a lot of group V. Some of the 8100s have a lot of ester, most are PAO and group III+.

Your links don't work, BTW.

 

[Scuderia]

Hope these links work now. MSDS link on product page.

300V 5W30: http://www.motul.com/us/en-US/products/21?f%5Brange%5D=25

8100 Eco-Nergy 5W30: http://www.motul.com/us/en-US/products/51?f%5Brange%5D=25&f%5Bviscosity%5D=33

 

[Scuderia]

Here are JPEGs of the MSDS. Sorry about the double post, it wouldn't let me edit.

300V 5W30:

8100 Eco-Nergy 5W30:

 

[dparm]

Call Joey at Motul USA. He'll tell you way more than any MSDS or TDS ever will, and he makes it easy to understand.

 

[carwreck]

The MSDS for 300V "Hydrotrated Heavy Paraffinic 25
CAS number "decoder"
http://forums.noria.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/616604995/m/695108673
(Thanks to "TallPaul" who posts here and at noria)

64742-65-0: Distillates, Solvent-Dewaxed Heavy paraffinic Group I
64742-54-7: Distillates, Hydrotreated Heavy Paraffinic Groups II, II+, and/or III
Some companies use the same name for group II or III in the MSDS. Petrol-Canada clearly identifies oils as group II or Group III. Example:
http://www.canadianoil.se/Bulletiner/api_basoljespecifikation.pdf

68037-01-4: Group IV (PAO)

Mineral Paraffinic Base Oil - 64742-54-7; VI of +94 to 120, any group.

Mineral Naphthenic Base Oil - 64741-96-4; VI of -15, any group.

Mineral Aromatic Base Oil - 64742-03-7; VI of -185, any group.

Hydrotreated paraffininc, heavy - 64742-52-5
Hydrotreated paraffinic, light - 64742-53-6

PAO's: 68649-12-7, 68037-01-4, 163149-29-9, 151006-63-2, 151006-62-1, 151006-60-9. VII's of +155 or greater.

Diester - 28472-97-1; VII's average +170.

VII Copolymers - 127883-08-3


Additives:
ZDDP Type Adds: 68649-42-3, XXXXX-46-6.

Calcium Sulfonates: 61789-86-4

Moly Dithiophosphate - 68958-92-7 or 68958-92-9

Moly Disulfide Powders - 1317-33-5


To look up any CAS number, example:
http://environmentalchemistry.com/yogi/chemicals/cn/Hydrotreated%A0heavy%A0paraffinic%A0distillate.html
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[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Scuderia
Just out of curiosity, can anyone tell me what these oils are made out of? I've heard the MSDS can tell you if they're GIII, PAO, Ester, etc.


They don't tell that, at least not reliably. Unless you plan on shipping a tanker truck of the stuff or are opening a store to sell it, the MSDS isn't going to do you any good.