RVS-treatment?

[OpelFever]

I have been reading about this stuff for a while and im curious to say the least. The claims are rather impressive and the feedback and comments from several forums have been positive. Im not a fan of oil additives in general, but id like to know if any of the knowledgeble people here have any experience on this? Apparently it's available in Usa (see the "contact us" part).

A Finnish car program tested the stuff by putting it into an old banger and running it without oil for about a 100 miles without seizure. The local polytehcnic monitored the test and sealed the engine before the test to prevent tampering.

A link to their website: http://www.rvs-tec.com/English/index.htm

 

[willix]

Look like another questionable additive claiming 72 virgins will appear.

 

[c3po]

Oil Additives from Europe don't seem to get much attention on BITOG, they are expensive and there claims are kind of outrageous.

It seems that just about any oil additive that comes up in this section just ends up turning into an argument instead of a useful discussion.

 

[OpelFever]

Looks like I'll have to test it out myself. Too bad I have only 1000 miles on the oil so no point in adding it yet.

What makes me believe its not the typical snake oil is that there is virtually no negative feedback. Ralley drivers reportedly use the stuff as it prevents engine failures if oil pressure is lost. The price is very steep though, 40€ per treatment for a sump of 4 liters maximum and 2 treatments are required. However, results should last 100000km (62000 miles) so it's not your typical "buy our best synthetic and change every 3k" or "add to every tank of gas" stuff.

 

[willix]

Go for it, do some follow-up results when that time comes.

 

[c3po]

Originally Posted By: OpelFever

A Finnish car program tested the stuff by putting it into an old banger and running it without oil for about a 100 miles without seizure


They did the same thing here in the U.S., just cannot remember the oil additive. I just do not see anyone on this board buying into this stuff, especially since we have sponsored oil's on this site like Pennzoil, who make Pennzoil Ultra and Pennzoil Platinum that claim to clean up an engine.

I have been using Pennzoil Platinum and my observations have verified Pennzoil's Claims.

 

[postjeeprcr]

Originally Posted By: c3po
It seems that just about any oil additive that comes up in this section just ends up turning into an argument instead of a useful discussion.

That is very true

 

[Roland]

I have had very impressive results with A RVS like product. i was thinking that " RVS " may even work better than the product i used. Based on others here who swear by RVS. Down side It looks that The actual "RVS" product is no longer available in the USA

This ceramic type of engine treatment is the only "additive" product that i can say 100% that makes a measurable difference, especially in badly worn engines. compression up, oil consumption down. Fuel mileage appeared to improve some also 10% range (but that is a bit subjective) id like to test fuel consumption out in my test generator.

Xado and Nano Tech are the similar products that i know of.i used the the nono tech stuff in 2 vans with over 200,000 mile on each

 

[Roland]

Originally Posted By: Roland
I have had very impressive results with A RVS like product. i was thinking that " RVS " may even work better than the product i used. Based on others here who swear by RVS. Down side It looks that The actual "RVS" product is no longer available in the USA

This ceramic type of engine treatment is the only "additive" product that i can say 100% that makes a measurable difference, especially in badly worn engines. compression up, oil consumption down. Fuel mileage appeared to improve some also 10% range (but that is a bit subjective) id like to test fuel consumption out in my test generator.

Xado and Nano Tech are the similar products that i know of.i used the the nono tech stuff in 2 vans with over 200,000 mile on each

Had to correct something i said. I did find that RVS is available still in the USA though the Canadian distributor http://www.rvs-tec.ca/ (some reason the parent Company does not link to them at this time??)

 

[OpelFever]

I decided to try RVS out so I bought the powersteering stuff as it was the cheapest of the range and easiest to add. I added it according to instructions but haven't felt much of a difference yet. The text on the box says that it takes 1000km/20 hours of driving for it to take full effect. Cars with over 200k may require a second treatment.

 

[zpa]

Bumpybump.. I'm on the first dose of this at the moment in my Saab. Lets see what happens. I've done the treatment once before on an old B&S I/C 18hp twin, and can say that it worked without doubt. Few seasons after the treatment we took the heads off, and the bore surfaces looked like glass.
This is not really an oil additive, as it doesn't affect the oil itself. The oil just carries it to the friction surfaces where the reaction takes place.

 

[jonny-b]

Hi.

I have been using RVS in several applications. It is really working. Even a diesel pump that a specialist told was shot, was fixed.
On this alone, I saved $3500, compared to having a new pump fitted by the garage.

There's actually a few, good products out there, that is working.

The problem is, that for every product that works, there are 200 others, that don't!

That is the main reason to why most of them don't reach more people.

 

[OpelFever]

I tried this in two engines and one powersteering unit and have seen no change. There is something fishy about this product, all the claimed tests have been performed in no-name universities and research centers and could easily be fake.

It has been claimed (by a person who spoke to the professor that did the testing of RVS) that the stuff is actually Aluminium oxide, an abrasive compound that wears down engine surfaces instead of creating the material as it claimes.

 

[demarpaint]

^^Aluminum Oxide is a component of sandpaper.^^

 

[jonny-b]

OpelFever, as far as I know, the only time RVS won't work, is when the application is so much worn, that the metal-ceramic layer will not increase, because of the impossible "working" conditions.
Of course you will also have to follow instructions.

I have to admit that I have also experienced one single application it didn't work in(totally worn out bearings, in a 1961 Ford).
The producer do mention that the application must not be totally shot.

I guess I have just been extremely lucky, then.
Together with a couple of Swedish guys, that I e-mailed, just to make sure that they stood by their written testimonials.

 

[OpelFever]

A professor of materials science in Helsinki university has said that what RVS claims to do is impossible. RVS-technology had tests carried out at said university and when the results where unfavourable, they buried the research and never contacted the university again.

If RVS could do what it claims, you would think that the patent would be sold to big oil for millions instead of selling it in small plastic tubes at shady autoparts stores.

jonny-b, are you still an advocate and satisfied user of Synlube? After Synlube was proven a scam here on BITOG by means of VOA, I must question the value and accuracy of your testimonials.

 

[TurboJim]

Originally Posted By: OpelFever
After Synlube was proven a scam here on BITOG...


I think all we learned was that those who had used the product liked it and those who hadn't didn't.

 

[OpelFever]

Originally Posted By: TurboJim
Originally Posted By: OpelFever
After Synlube was proven a scam here on BITOG...


I think all we learned was that those who had used the product liked it and those who hadn't didn't.


I think that when the viscosity is off two grades of what it claims to be there is a lot more wrong with the product than the negative and suspicious views of those who hadn't used it (for good reason).

 

[jonny-b]

I do believe RVS is the product being discussed here?

Another thing is, that I don't see that anyone at BITOG proved anything, about Synlube.
You had the ones that used it, and you had the ones that didn't.
Personally, I used Synlube in differentials, transmissions and engines.
I was driving a lot more than I do now, but in one car I had it in for 72-73000 kilometers.
It was doing extremely well, and also cured a small issue with that engine.
I still have the Synlube oil, since I drained the oil, when I sold this car.
The problem is that I bought a wreck of a Peugot, since I don't have so much use for a car, now.

I will not use the the Synlube in this one.

If I had bought a new car, one of the first things I would have done, is to use Synlube in the engine.
Both from a performance and cost point of view.

But, remember, this is my experience, from my use of Synlube.