The Critic,
Nice post!
Nice post!
I've been doing regular oil analysis on my '02 Acura K20A3 engine since the factory fill, and I don't find that the synthetics I've tried (M1 0w-30, M1 5w-30, M1 0w-20, and Synergyn 0w-20) last longer than Havoline 5w-20 dino or Valvoline Durablend. Just the opposite.quote:
Originally posted by The Critic:
...My personal opinion only: Synthetic oils do not necessairly constitute a longer drain interval. There are other factors that will determine oil life other than the added oxidation resistance, higher TBN, etc in synthetic oil. For example, fuel contamination from short trips due to the engine rarely seeing normal operating temperature may justify the need for a shorter drain interval...
I think one has to be careful when making sweeping generalizations. Some synthetics aren't necessarily built for extended OCIs. One also has to be careful when using single use UOAs to draw conclusions. But I will agree that use of a synthetic doesn't necessarily guarantee a successful extended OCI.quote:
Originally posted by Jay:
I've been doing regular oil analysis on my '02 Acura K20A3 engine since the factory fill, and I don't find that the synthetics I've tried (M1 0w-30, M1 5w-30, M1 0w-20, and Synergyn 0w-20) last longer than Havoline 5w-20 dino or Valvoline Durablend. Just the opposite.
a lot of honda enthusiasts recommend staying away from synthetic transmission fluids since they are too "slick" to enable the syncros to operate normally, and cause grinding?quote:
PS- Consider switching your transmission lube to either Redline MTL, SF MTL-P, or Amsoil MTF at the first oil change. Jiffy Lube or equivalent usually charges less than $30 for labor if you bring the fluid. [/QB]
I have heard tons of good stuff about gm syncromesh fluid in honda's. Any opions on that stuff?quote:
Originally posted by EVOL:
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PS- Consider switching your transmission lube to either Redline MTL, SF MTL-P, or Amsoil MTF at the first oil change. Jiffy Lube or equivalent usually charges less than $30 for labor if you bring the fluid.a lot of honda enthusiasts recommend staying away from synthetic transmission fluids since they are too "slick" to enable the syncros to operate normally, and cause grinding? [/QB]
I ran Red Line MTL for 85k on my '03 civic, and now im using Specialty Formulations MTL-P which says it has a group IV/V base, and no problems here. "Too slick" doesnt cut it for me, need some better reasoning than that.quote:
Originally posted by EVOL:
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PS- Consider switching your transmission lube to either Redline MTL, SF MTL-P, or Amsoil MTF at the first oil change. Jiffy Lube or equivalent usually charges less than $30 for labor if you bring the fluid.a lot of honda enthusiasts recommend staying away from synthetic transmission fluids since they are too "slick" to enable the syncros to operate normally, and cause grinding? [/QB]
after some time, my friends integra type r started the notorious 3rd gear grind. he then tried the GM syncromesh friction modified (different from the regular one to those who don't know), it and took away his 3rd gear grind. it did the same for me; i had a slight 3rd gear grind in my type r transmission in my integra GSR, and it cured it.quote:
Originally posted by Tennisjon2002:
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Originally posted by EVOL:
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PS- Consider switching your transmission lube to either Redline MTL, SF MTL-P, or Amsoil MTF at the first oil change. Jiffy Lube or equivalent usually charges less than $30 for labor if you bring the fluid.a lot of honda enthusiasts recommend staying away from synthetic transmission fluids since they are too "slick" to enable the syncros to operate normally, and cause grinding?I have heard tons of good stuff about gm syncromesh fluid in honda's. Any opions on that stuff? [/QB]
Ahh, I think it was when other people tried straight synthetic motor oil in their Honda transmissions instead of Redline. This has always scared me to try a synthetic MTF in my transmission, since rebuilding transmissions is by no means cheapquote:
Originally posted by sxg6:
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Originally posted by EVOL:
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PS- Consider switching your transmission lube to either Redline MTL, SF MTL-P, or Amsoil MTF at the first oil change. Jiffy Lube or equivalent usually charges less than $30 for labor if you bring the fluid.a lot of honda enthusiasts recommend staying away from synthetic transmission fluids since they are too "slick" to enable the syncros to operate normally, and cause grinding?I ran Red Line MTL for 85k on my '03 civic, and now im using Specialty Formulations MTL-P which says it has a group IV/V base, and no problems here. "Too slick" doesnt cut it for me, need some better reasoning than that. [/QB]
Mine REALLY love the OEM "PCX" Toyo Roki oil filter specifically made for the S2000.quote:
Originally posted by Nickdfresh:
And Hondas love a Wix/Napa Gold filter...
If you do a search on honda-tech and s2ki.com (an S2000 devoted online discussion community) you will find many that praise the GMSFM (GM Synchromesh Friction Modified) but you will find more that denounce it. It has caused transmission issues with a number of S2000 trannys and I prefer not to use it. It seems to work very well for the first 5,000 miles and then it degrades at an extremely fast rate.quote:
Originally posted by Tennisjon2002:
I have heard tons of good stuff about gm syncromesh fluid in honda's. Any opions on that stuff?
Honda MTF shears down verrrry fast. It's fine, but IMO only for 3k.quote:
Originally posted by biodiesel00:
If you do a search on honda-tech and s2ki.com (an S2000 devoted online discussion community) you will find many that praise the GMSFM (GM Synchromesh Friction Modified) but you will find more that denounce it. It has caused transmission issues with a number of S2000 trannys and I prefer not to use it. It seems to work very well for the first 5,000 miles and then it degrades at an extremely fast rate.quote:
Originally posted by Tennisjon2002:
I have heard tons of good stuff about gm syncromesh fluid in honda's. Any opions on that stuff?
I would suggest sticking with Honda MTF.
My Acura GS-R has a redline of 8100 rpms. I've never used anything but conventional 5W-30 oil in it (Castrol GTX for most of the miles) with 3750 mi OCIs.quote:
Originally posted by Tennisjon2002:
I have a new 2006 Honda Civic Si with the K20 engine. I am trying to decide what oil and filter to use when I get to the oil change time. The Si is a performance oriented car with an 8000 rpm redline. It also has the oil monitor and I would like to use that feature if possible. I drive my car hard, mostly city miles. I live in NC so the climate is fairly mild.
I am thinking I should go Supertech Synthetic with a supertech filter and change on time/alittle over the oil monitor system (probably 6K miles or so). I think this is a good mix between interval time/cost/protection etc. Does this sound good or what else would you recomend? Should I use a Honda Filter instead? I will probably do a blackstone on it sometime.