Originally Posted By: jonny-b
c3po,
I understand that members here would like to see proof, and that is what we all would like to.
The problem is that today, you have the possibility to manipulate virtually all the info, to what you like(including pictures).
In regard to the Cermax tread, a couple of years ago, I was one of the first to order it.
At that time, it was actually working.
What happened later, is only roomers, but it was not the same product being sold all the time.
Another thing to consider, is that the places in an engine(or transmission)that is worn most, have the highest friction.
RVS needs friction and heat, to react with the metal surfaces.
This is the way this additive will tell which metal parts are worn and which parts are not worn.
But, there are also other things to take into consideration, like:
The size of the active particles of the RVS compound is appr. 1 to 20 µm, so make sure that they can pass the oil filter. For instance, in some automobiles too effective filters are used, if you look at their function from the point of view of the effectiveness of the RVS Technology®.
The RVS Technology® products start modifying the surfaces only if there is friction energy available caused by a contact of the surfaces. The first treatment is recommended to start with an old oil that no longer protects the surfaces from their mutual contacts as well as a new one.
jonny-b, I am sorry but this RVS Product sounds alot like Slick50, I just cannot see 10 milliliters of the stuff that someone would use a syringe to put it in there engine to do any type of good. Is this stuff going to flow through engine parts that may have varnish or sludge on them.
Again this product reminds me of Cermax, I remember reading the thread and all we saw were claims with no testing. If members are going to spend $110.00 I think they deserve some real data. It just seems like you are throwing smoking mirrors at us here.
I do have some knowledge about worn engine parts from what I have read and on my own observations. Engine parts get worn because of lack of lubrication, we have many oil additives here in the U.S. that will clean an engine or keep it clean. If the engine is clean then oil can travel everywhere in an engine to lubricate all of the parts.
So you have a product here that can repair or you claim it can repair worn metal, but we need a product to prevent the worn metal from happening, if you do not fix the problem you will continue to have metal parts that will get worn.
The other problem with this product is that many of the engines today are made of aluminum, I know here I go again about aluminum. Aluminum is a soft metal and it is porous, it is not a perfectly smooth surface, so 10 ml. of this RVS Product is going to flow over these uneven surfaces, and the fact that varnish and sludge are harder to get off of aluminum because it is a softer metal. You say this RVS Product is heat activated, sounds like another oil additive on here that needs heat activation. Aluminum dissapates heat almost 5 times faster than cast iron, so I see a problem here.
I also did not think it was cool to attack AD, sure he has not used this RVS Product, but I see an attack on a member as a way to divert from the question of whether this is a good product or not. I think we are all tired of members being attacked when they question a product, it shows that someone may be hiding something.
This was originally an MMO Thread, I use the product because a member on this board recommended it, I post my observations about the product and leave it up to everyone else to decide whether or not to use it. I recently responded in another oil additive thread, I researched it and saw that it was a good product, just about every oil additive we discuss on this board has been used by many members who post there observations from years of experience, we have nothing with this RVS Product except some sales pitch from the company.
We here at BITOG want hard facts and unbiased data, we do not want attacks and smoking mirrors, we are all waiting for hard proof.