CJ-4 vs CI-4+

[ChiTDI]

Mobil 1 TDT seems to be coming back to the shelves here and I'm wondering if there's any advantage for me to ante up for CJ4 or get the sale priced CI4+?
VW Jetta '02

 

[bmwtechguy]

From what I have seen in UOA, they both work well. The CI4+ has been around longer with a longer track record in more vehicles with more UOA's. There is some talk of TDT being a lower grade of CJ4 than the Delvac 1 found in gallons at truck stops, not to mention, a very big difference in gallon price between the two. Previously these were both formulated the same.

So, my choice would be the CI4+ if my vehicle did not require CJ4. Especially if I could get it cheaper.

 

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted By: bmwtechguy
From what I have seen in UOA, they both work well. The CI4+ has been around longer with a longer track record in more vehicles with more UOA's. There is some talk of TDT being a lower grade of CJ4 than the Delvac 1 found in gallons at truck stops, not to mention, a very big difference in gallon price between the two. Previously these were both formulated the same.

So, my choice would be the CI4+ if my vehicle did not require CJ4. Especially if I could get it cheaper.



I'm curious where you heard that from...previously TDT and Delvac 1 were the same, it's odd why Mobil would change it?

Just cur

 

[JAG]

I'd get the CI-4+ version because it's on sale. The CJ-4 version is doing well from what I've seen so far in TDI engines.

D-ROC, TDT CJ-4 and Delvac 1 CJ-4 are now different. XOM's description of the two oils seems to imply that Delvac 1 is the mack-daddy of the two oils but who knows if that's true. See this thread:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1141469#Post1141469

 

[bmwtechguy]

Several here on bitog have corresponded with Mobil and the answer has been that they are now different formulations with the change to CJ-4. The gallon price at O'Reillys here is about 26 or 27 dollars, but D1 has been mostly seen at $35/gal. at truck stops and Mobil distributors, if found at all right now.

 

[Tornado Red]

If I could find the CI-4+ formulation of TDT for a sale price, I'd buy all I could. Or at least all I would be likely to use in the next few years.

I do not know if the CI-4+ or the CJ-4 version is the best.... I'm running the CJ-4 version now but have not done any used-oil testing so far.

 

[D-Roc]

Originally Posted By: Tornado Red
If I could find the CI-4+ formulation of TDT for a sale price, I'd buy all I could. Or at least all I would be likely to use in the next few years.

I do not know if the CI-4+ or the CJ-4 version is the best.... I'm running the CJ-4 version now but have not done any used-oil testing so far.



Wally in Canada still sells the TDT (CI4+) in 5 liter jugs for about 41 bucks right now...every wal mart I've been to in a couple of provinces is still selling it. If you're close to the border, it's an option. Depends on how close you are to Canada I guess.
The CI4+ version of TDT...is that the same as the CI4+ version of Delvac 1? Were they both PAO formulas?

 

[D-Roc]

No bother, read the thread

 

[bullwinkle]

If my vehicle didn't have to have CJ, I'd run CI-4-CJ oils have lowered additive levels to protect the soot trap-if it's cheaper/on sale, that'd be a WIN-WIN in my book!!

 

[JDD]

Buy all the CI4+ you can get your hands on!!!!

 

[Ben99GT]

The CJ-4 oils seem to be doing just as well as the CI-4+ oils in most applications, maybe even a bit better in some.