Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: lazaro
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There is a notable difference between the information provided by somebody who, while having a vested interest in a product they sell, will lay it on the line and discuss FACTUAL data, like yourself. And somebody who pushed propaganda and outright tripe in a manner that is, well, quite frankly, outrageous.
so that means me, correct?
please post up a few of my over the top claims!
anything I post I can back up.
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It is people like the latter that put many people off their interest in AMSOIL. I think the attitudes and opinions expressed in this thread in response to lazaro's posts reflect that well.
Hippocrates There are in fact two things, science and opinion the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance
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Arnold Glasgow- The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion
you have a strong opinion yes?
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Oliver Wendell Holmes-To obtain a man's opinion of you, make him mad
you always follow my lead, or better put, my (censored) trail
Instead of randomly quoting people to make yourself sound educated, how about responding to me directly?
I run Amsoil products. I run Exxon-Mobil products. I have had great luck with both. But I don't make outrageous claims for either. Nor do I JUMP on other forum members because they have made a suggestion.
As you asked:
Originally Posted By: lazaro
I dont use expensive DIRTOIL oil
Do you use the Amsoil XL-series oil? If so, it's group III.
Originally Posted By: lazaro
Amsoil is cheaper the second you pour it in your vehicle.
Bill's data completely contradicts this with the mileage he has accumulated using nothing other than what is on sale.
Originally Posted By: lazaro
Amsoil is cheaper.
No, M1 TDT is cheaper for me, even at dealer pricing.
Originally Posted By: lazaro
less wear
There are many oils, just as RLI, Redline, M1, Delvac 1 that have shown as good or better wear results in various engines on here. In lower-mileage tests, there have been conventional oils with extremely good UOA's.
Originally Posted By: lazaro
less fuel used
Our Expedition has had no change in fuel economy running Amsoil over Mobil 1. Buster had no increase in fuel mileage using SSO.
Originally Posted By: lazaro
ditch the liquid dirt oil and buy a NON PETROLIUM product
Amsoil's XL series is Group III. That's petroleum. Whoops. PAO is BASED on Petroleum, it is the the Group V stuff, what Redline uses, as well as RLI that is ester-based.
Originally Posted By: lazaro
my 1991 Taurus SHO eats 3 quarts in 10,000 miles, how is that hurting my engine?
But....
Originally Posted By: lazaro
say anything you want, Amsoil is cheaper. less wear, less waste oil
And....
Originally Posted By: lazaro
I have too many people who have new vehicles that dumped the factory fill and put in AMSOIL and at 25,000 miles the oil is still clean and not a drop was used. that is about 5 new vehicles that all react the same, no oil compsumption and great MPG! why would you want to change that?
You are not one of the people with zero consumption then?
Listen, I'm NOT trying to bust your balls here. I'm NOT trying to be a ****. I am simply trying to get across the fact that the information you post comes across with far too much zeal. If you can come to grips with that and perhaps work on changing that, people would not be so quick to react to your posts in the manner which has occurred in this thread.
your asking me to change the person that I am.
thanks for your concern.
I cant change how things are presented to me, I especially dont like
Mechanics who stress 3 month oil changes or else, but if you mention extended drain intervals, all of the sudden I am the Idiot who does not have any clue and is making false claims.
I have an opinion based on 20 years of putting my cash out there in the market keeping my own vehicles and my parents vehicles running.
15 years ago I was a IDIOT changing oil out every month and I felt proud of taking care of my vehicle.
that is until I realized that maybe another product of lubricant could last longer, I wanted to know.
so I purchased a case of royal purle and poured it in my 1967 Mustang fastback, that at that time had a 428CJ inside.
I turned the key and that was the last time I paid cash for any peTROLLeum.
I learned that day that lowering the idle on my engine was due to less FRICTION.
it was easy for me to see the difference.
So I decided to see of all the synthetic oil companies out there wich one was the best. I found what I think is the best and the rest is history.
Originally Posted By: lazaro
Amsoil is cheaper the second you pour it in your vehicle.
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Bill's data completely contradicts this with the mileage he has accumulated using nothing other than what is on sale.
Bill is a guy that goes by the book, especially his owners manual for his vehicle.
He also like to test things out too.
He will follow the vehicle manufacture advice on oil changes, but he wont follow the oil manufacture minimum oil drain interval for using Amsoil. so how can his test be at all viable?
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Do you use the Amsoil XL-series oil? If so, it's group III.
so I would like to know if Amsoil xl series has more or less grpIII by volume in a quart bottle than lets say M1 ep?
the answer to that question better be answered br a tribologist!
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Our Expedition has had no change in fuel economy running Amsoil over Mobil 1. Buster had no increase in fuel mileage using SSO.
did any of those intervals go for at least 15,000 miles?
