Do many people use ULX 110 oils in the U.S ? Its beginning to get a footing in Australia, especially in the racing scene and performance street cars, Holdens, Subarus, Skylines etc. The product sold in Australia is apparently made in the U.S.A and is also an emerald green colour, solvent cracked oil.
ULX 110 Oil
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I guess Joe Gibbs Racing should forget making synthetics.
ULX 110: Are Synthetic Lubricants Really Better
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There seems to be a certain amount of confusion about who makes the best motor oil. A lot of emphasis today is put on synthetics. It reminds me of the 70's when all the professional ball teams had to have astro turf. Now everyone is realizing the "synthetic" grass leaves a lot to be desired and the new stadiums are not using it. And remember Polyester double knit "Leisure" suits? Comparably, as synthetic oils are becoming more widely used its shortcomings are becoming more pronounced. Engine builders are expressing problems with detonation due to poor wiping of synthetic oils coupled with the fact that synthetic oil does not burn as easily as do petroleum oils. As the piston returns on compression stoke, the oil that didn't wipe completely off is forced on top of the piston and since it doesn't burn, it will pile up on the top of the piston and up compression until you get detonation. Another problem expressed is leaking due to; the reaction of synthetic base stocks with gaskets and seals, and because of the very nature of the thin viscosity. Synthetic oil base stock contains no solvent quality therefore resulting in a greater problem in carbon and sludge builds up. Cylinder scuffing piston scuffing are serious problems associated with the thin viscosity of synthetic.
Competition racing requires getting the most horsepower out of an engine as possible. This must be tempered with ability of a lubricant to protect the engine. Most people do not have unlimited funds to gain the very max in HP at the sacrifice of the engine. It's time for engine oil that gives the HP gains synthetics do and at the same time protect the engine even better than the heavy petroleum oils used for many years.
Using a top quality premium solvent neutral base stock with an additive package that incorporates some synthetic additive packages along with newest technology VI improvers and friction modifiers the ability to manufacture a truly custom blend oil that is far superior to any petroleum and meets and exceeds HP gains with synthetics is a reality. This is the need ULX-110 has addressed.
ULX-110 is a highly refined emerald green crankcase oil, engineered from top quality solvent neutral base stocks, and the very best nonshear viscosity index improvers, along with three performance additives, ULX-110 also contains 2 specialty additives, one a completely oil soluble friction reducer with anti-wear and extreme pressure properties, and a unique viscosity stabilizer and acid neutralizer ingredient.
ULX 110: Are Synthetic Lubricants Really Better
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There seems to be a certain amount of confusion about who makes the best motor oil. A lot of emphasis today is put on synthetics. It reminds me of the 70's when all the professional ball teams had to have astro turf. Now everyone is realizing the "synthetic" grass leaves a lot to be desired and the new stadiums are not using it. And remember Polyester double knit "Leisure" suits? Comparably, as synthetic oils are becoming more widely used its shortcomings are becoming more pronounced. Engine builders are expressing problems with detonation due to poor wiping of synthetic oils coupled with the fact that synthetic oil does not burn as easily as do petroleum oils. As the piston returns on compression stoke, the oil that didn't wipe completely off is forced on top of the piston and since it doesn't burn, it will pile up on the top of the piston and up compression until you get detonation. Another problem expressed is leaking due to; the reaction of synthetic base stocks with gaskets and seals, and because of the very nature of the thin viscosity. Synthetic oil base stock contains no solvent quality therefore resulting in a greater problem in carbon and sludge builds up. Cylinder scuffing piston scuffing are serious problems associated with the thin viscosity of synthetic.
Competition racing requires getting the most horsepower out of an engine as possible. This must be tempered with ability of a lubricant to protect the engine. Most people do not have unlimited funds to gain the very max in HP at the sacrifice of the engine. It's time for engine oil that gives the HP gains synthetics do and at the same time protect the engine even better than the heavy petroleum oils used for many years.
Using a top quality premium solvent neutral base stock with an additive package that incorporates some synthetic additive packages along with newest technology VI improvers and friction modifiers the ability to manufacture a truly custom blend oil that is far superior to any petroleum and meets and exceeds HP gains with synthetics is a reality. This is the need ULX-110 has addressed.
ULX-110 is a highly refined emerald green crankcase oil, engineered from top quality solvent neutral base stocks, and the very best nonshear viscosity index improvers, along with three performance additives, ULX-110 also contains 2 specialty additives, one a completely oil soluble friction reducer with anti-wear and extreme pressure properties, and a unique viscosity stabilizer and acid neutralizer ingredient.
there is so much wrong with the above do not know here to start.
bruce
bruce
I love it. "Highly refined emerald green crankcase oil." No such thing.
I really like
" top quality solvent neutral base stocks"
" top quality solvent neutral base stocks"
It's too easy!
When reading the description of Brad Penns oil it seems to be similar in being a emerald green oil, and also a solvent cracked oil. The ULX also has alot of additives, mainly zinc, calcium and moly. There have been a few tests around, but alot of its repuation comes from the drag racing scene, and some of Australia's V8 supercars using it. Comes in a very basic bottle, but is rated up until SM. Planet soarer did some tests with it in comparing it to Mobil 1 etc in the sense it did not perform better or worse, or protect better or worse. Still interesting that a group 1 is performing equal if not better that Mobil 1 ? It is also quite expensive for 5 litres being around US$65 for a group 1 mineral. I was just curious of its use in the states.
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A lot of good racing oils were made with Group I back in the day. They make good racing oils with enough bright stock, just don't race with them for 5,000 miles.
Another thing is this oil has Viscosity Indexes of 160 plus, and drain intervals up to 20,000 kilometres. It is advertised as a Custom Blend oil.
I think what their claim is that with solvent refined process, yes its only 80% pure, with mass produced base stocks like castrol, mobil, pennzoil etc they would only have run the process, hydrocracking etc once. From a tribologist point of view, what if you were to solvent refine a product over and over a few times ? I wonder what the good qualities they are trying to keep in the oil this way, when everyone else is trying to pull it out when they hydrocrack it.
""From a tribologist point of view, what if you were to solvent refine a product over and over a few times ?""
no one does waste of time and money solvent exstraction will olny do so much.
""Another thing is this oil has Viscosity Indexes of 160 plus, and drain intervals up to 20,000 kilometres.""
So what no big deal this is way OLD, GPI oils other than holding more sludge will produce more sludge about only advanyage of a GPI vs GPII would be some improvement in Load carrying due to high sulfur.
"" Still interesting that a group 1 is performing equal if not better that Mobil 1""
Doubt this In fact a full GPI would IMHO barley pass SM if at all.
bruce
no one does waste of time and money solvent exstraction will olny do so much.
""Another thing is this oil has Viscosity Indexes of 160 plus, and drain intervals up to 20,000 kilometres.""
So what no big deal this is way OLD, GPI oils other than holding more sludge will produce more sludge about only advanyage of a GPI vs GPII would be some improvement in Load carrying due to high sulfur.
"" Still interesting that a group 1 is performing equal if not better that Mobil 1""
Doubt this In fact a full GPI would IMHO barley pass SM if at all.
bruce
Thanks for the replies Bruce, much appreciated. The supplier states SM rating, are Brad Penns Green oil SL or SM rated ? If you look on the planet soarer site, the gentleman has done a test, and on a dyno and wear metals wise, no better, no worse.
wear metal are more due to additives than base oil HP is also additives and or oil VIS.
SLudge, varnish, coke are more related to base oils
of which GPI is not very good in a PCMO a GPII or GPIII would better.
bruce
SLudge, varnish, coke are more related to base oils
of which GPI is not very good in a PCMO a GPII or GPIII would better.
bruce
Bruce,
I have just confirmed that the ULX we import into Australia is a Group 2+ oil, SM Rated, Sulphur of less than 10ppm and highest allowable Zinc to pass SM rating. Can GRoup 2 plus be achieved by this solvent refining over and over, or maybe the site is outdated.
I have just confirmed that the ULX we import into Australia is a Group 2+ oil, SM Rated, Sulphur of less than 10ppm and highest allowable Zinc to pass SM rating. Can GRoup 2 plus be achieved by this solvent refining over and over, or maybe the site is outdated.
""maybe the site is outdated.""
I would say so yes
I would say so yes
I have just recieved my UOA from Caterpillar on this oil. I have posted in the UOA section. Link attached. More issues with the car than with the actual oil eg. possible cracked head or leaking gasket. Otherwise oil has good additive package etc.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1204683#Post1204683
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1204683#Post1204683
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