M1 in Indy car?
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Same thing with motorcycles.Quote:
You must have gotten a different pension plan that I did. I'm just plain old "half time"
Back on topic: I could see them using quarts at the race track due to contamination issues. Next time someone observes something like this try to find out if the bottles are factory sealed or if there are any factory sealed cases setting around. Some of the things you have to realize is that some of the oils that you can buy off the shelf today are better than the racing oils of 20 to 30 years ago.
Best race? Hmmm. I would say that maybe the 24 hours of Lemans. They do similar speeds as Indy. They also race in the rain. .. .at night? They just turn their headlights on!
The 24 hours of Daytona is also a must see race. 3 am and cars are screaming by the grandstands at 190 mph.
500 miles is child's play compared to running a car for 24 hours at speed. Keeping the engine and transmission together for 2500 miles is a whole other issue.
500 miles is child's play compared to running a car for 24 hours at speed. Keeping the engine and transmission together for 2500 miles is a whole other issue.
Have to agree with Buster, the oil in F1 are nothing like off the shelf oil. To put it context,read last months copy of how Shell works with Ferrari on fuel and oil.
I guess Indy engines are all spec engines, I think maybe they are built to use that particular spec oil or maybe that quart was filled with something else.
I guess Indy engines are all spec engines, I think maybe they are built to use that particular spec oil or maybe that quart was filled with something else.
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These values are also upheld by Porsche and as a result the relationship has culminated in a number of impressive wins on the race track. The success on track proves the performance and protection the fully synthetic oil provides for the lubrication of the 400bhp engines of the race cars as well as for road cars.
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Porsche exclusively recommends Mobil 1 engine oil and every single Porsche is factory filled with Mobil 1 0W-40, exactly the same Mobil 1 used in the Carrera Cup and by your Porsche Dealer.
For an oil that shears and does shows higher Fe, I do wonder why Porsche uses M1 0w-40 on the track?? 0w-40 is more of an all climate type oil. Does anyone think that because the sump sizes are so large (9-14 qts) that it holds up ok? I would have thought they use a more shear stable oil, something similar to their 10w-40 MC racing oils.
These values are also upheld by Porsche and as a result the relationship has culminated in a number of impressive wins on the race track. The success on track proves the performance and protection the fully synthetic oil provides for the lubrication of the 400bhp engines of the race cars as well as for road cars.
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Porsche exclusively recommends Mobil 1 engine oil and every single Porsche is factory filled with Mobil 1 0W-40, exactly the same Mobil 1 used in the Carrera Cup and by your Porsche Dealer.
For an oil that shears and does shows higher Fe, I do wonder why Porsche uses M1 0w-40 on the track?? 0w-40 is more of an all climate type oil. Does anyone think that because the sump sizes are so large (9-14 qts) that it holds up ok? I would have thought they use a more shear stable oil, something similar to their 10w-40 MC racing oils.
It's cheap, and it's made in massive quantities with good quality control because it's factory and service fill on so many cars. It doesn't have to be great. It just has to be good. As has been said, these engines only run for about 1,000 miles between total teardowns anyway.
I would like to see a tare down of one of those engines after a race...or at least under the valve cover.
Large sumps are the answer. You put M1 0w-40 in a small sump and run it hard and you could have a 30w oil in short order and in some of those applications a 30w will work.
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