Zeibart rubber dog doo doo coating covers rust. Oil based coatings prevent it.
It works if you use 5 year olds sweep under the rug logic.
It works if you use 5 year olds sweep under the rug logic.
Ziebart Emergency? Is it?
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Clean your room by cramming everything in the closet! I may have tried that a time or two, but it didn't fly....
You are supposed to do it on a new vehicle, not one that has dirt ,light corrosion and grime built up on it.
Ziebart is oil based I can post MSDS if you like.
I do not know about Krown or Rust check have not seen these in the upper midwest.As for fluid film I sprayed that on my last truck that was not Ziebarted.I only sprayed the brake lines on my 14 year old truck starting at 8 years old at 13 years old blew a metal brake line,had to have it towed to a shop, the metal brake line was corroded out.All i am saying is my 1988 and 1997 chevrolet held up way better with ziebart that my last truck, I wish I would have saved photos I had of the 2001, rocker panels on both side were swiss cheese and above the rear wheel wells the rust holes were about 20 inches long and 3 inches tall.The frame had heavy rust scale and several holes the size of soft balls,when I tried to sell it myself I priced it very low but when people looked under at the frame and saw the rust scale they said no way,they could not even see the holes, they were above the fuel tank. Truck only had 138,000 miles and washed it 2 times a week in the winter.
Must be a new coating. Guess the got with the program and stopped using rubber.
Washed it 2 times a week?! Yeah, no.
I wash my car zero times a week or month. As a matter of fact I wash it every other year at best. Fluid film, crown etc keeps the rust away.
What does washing do? Force more salt in the welds and cracks?
UPDATE:
The dealer is Towne Auto Group in hamburg NY. Total scam artists. They advertise a full ziebart package and to my friends delight they just take a spray gun and lambast the entire bottom chassis as fast as possible to be able to say they apply the product and charge for it. They did not apply it thick like it should have been and they did not inject it into all the doors and crevices.
The vehicle was too good to pass up and it was certified pre owened for the price I could buy it at auction. The coating they applied is most likely not going to present any issue as we will be switching over to krown for the internal cavities, and woolwax for the bottom chassis. We will smother it right over the ziebart so if the ziebart cracks or shrinks, the lanolin will creep right in. With yearly reapplications while not ideal, should prevent any issues posed by the ziebart.
As much as i dislike ziebart, if you applied it youself to ensure it was done right, and on a brand new fresh vehicle, I beleive it would be better than doing nothing at all. On a used car, absolutly not.
The dealer is Towne Auto Group in hamburg NY. Total scam artists. They advertise a full ziebart package and to my friends delight they just take a spray gun and lambast the entire bottom chassis as fast as possible to be able to say they apply the product and charge for it. They did not apply it thick like it should have been and they did not inject it into all the doors and crevices.
The vehicle was too good to pass up and it was certified pre owened for the price I could buy it at auction. The coating they applied is most likely not going to present any issue as we will be switching over to krown for the internal cavities, and woolwax for the bottom chassis. We will smother it right over the ziebart so if the ziebart cracks or shrinks, the lanolin will creep right in. With yearly reapplications while not ideal, should prevent any issues posed by the ziebart.
As much as i dislike ziebart, if you applied it youself to ensure it was done right, and on a brand new fresh vehicle, I beleive it would be better than doing nothing at all. On a used car, absolutly not.
Towne Auto Group are certified shysters.
I had to deal with them too many times. Every time I did wanted to go and get a prescription for penicillin.
Edit: if it's the rubber coating and itsna truck frame they may be using it to cover up major safety issues.
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All that rust stayed hidden for years and it was like a time bomb waiting to go off.
I've been waiting since 1988 for the Ziebart coating that was applied to destroy my 88 E-150. Still no rust, anywhere.
ZIEBART INTERNATIONAL CORP SAFETY DATA SHEET (SDS) Revised 7/22/2015 SECTION 1: IDENTIFICATION Z302510
Product Names Other Names Use Company Emergency Tel. Z302510, Z-Gard Black
Sealant Anti-rust Coating Corrosion Protection coating Ziebart International Corp. 1290 E. Maple Road Troy, MI 48083 Tel: (248) 588-4100 Fax: (248) 588-1444
----- NOTICE THE WORDS PETROLEUM ODOR AND FLAMMABLE-----
Mixture Chemical Name Stoddard Solvent Common Name CAS number Percent by weight Mineral Spirits 8052-41-3 SECTION 4: FIRST-AID MEASURES 30-60%
Appearance Form Color Flammability Limits Upper Lower Odor Odor Threshold Vapor Pressure at 20°C pH Vapor Density (air=1) Evaporation Rate Specific Gravity, 16°C Melting Point/Range Viscous Liquid Black Approx. 6.0% Approx. 0.7% Mild Petroleum Odor Not Determined 0.27-0.40 kPa Not applicable >1 Not Determined 0.85 Not Determine
GHS HAZARD CLASSIFICATION: Physical Hazards Health Hazards LABEL ELEMENTS: Signal Word Hazard Statements Flammable Liquid Acute Toxicity-Oral Acute Toxicity-Inhalation Skin irritation Eye irritation Target organ toxicity, repeat exposure Warning H226: H302: H332: H315: H320: H373: Flammable liquid and vapour Harmful if swallowed Harmful if inhaled Causes skin irritation Causes eye irritation Category 3 Category 4 Category 4 Category 2 Category 2
That doesnt give any chemical makeup besides saying its 60% mineral spirits. So I am assuming its an oil type coating and not the old rubber suicide pact coating?
It says 30-60 Percent mineral spirits- I did not post full MSDS it is 8 pages long!
Z Guard 8000 is a black, durable, thixotropic, corrosion-preventative sealant designed as a rust-inhibiting undercoating for underbody components, containers and other metal and wood structures. The rust inhibiting sealant is a blend of petroleum base materials and organometallic complex products dispersed in petroleum solvents. It is easily applied using airless spray equipment.
- Formulated to use on metal surfaces, automotive or industrial where superior, long term corrosion protection is required.
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I mean, asphalt is also oil based, so is synthetic rubber. Here's an SDS for Rocker Guard:
And another:
I have a 1975 Volkswagen Westfalia camper bus that came from Maine. It was done when.new. it has a rusted out battery tray and a few pinholes in the fender next to it.. These rust badly. I am a believer.
Get it rust proofed with an oil based product. Krown or CarWell or NH Coatings or Noxudol 700. Forget Ziebart.
Ok I am still a bit confused here people.
Does zeibart still do their rubber coating?
Does zeibart still do their rubber coating?
