XG10575 5,100 miles

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Fram XG10575, 5100 miles, oil monitor still was showing 36%, Pennzoil Platinum 0w-20 in a 2015 5.3 GMC 40,223 miles at change, ran sense beginning of last June. Reason for a short run is because I'm not sure on maintenance history sense the truck is new to me. Filter did great, as expected. https://photos.app.goo.gl/g71sVhE7B2mjHeP52 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8KuVFE2sg8Yaw8Zk2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/wVdP0VwOPIFkzbQp2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/zxTO5EhhWegsnZAi1 https://photos.app.goo.gl/9DCT3FZmqFZ11NeB3 https://photos.app.goo.gl/EBGf3h7nStu9SIg32 https://photos.app.goo.gl/EBGf3h7nStu9SIg32 https://photos.app.goo.gl/TvFRg2Ia51z8v6a52 https://photos.app.goo.gl/TvFRg2Ia51z8v6a52 https://photos.app.goo.gl/HLvFEPHRXBM5i32o2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/3x56qQixZeESPwMs1 https://photos.app.goo.gl/p4WYtVplA9fcbzzn2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/MN6oh7K9WfZRfHoi1 https://photos.app.goo.gl/BzSqCnYqKBFQJ58A2 I'm a bit surprised the amount of sludge inside the filter. I'm probably going to run this change 5k miles again. Hopefully it wont look as bad as this. Put on same filter and 7qt of PP 0w20 and 1 gt of castrol magnatec 0w20 https://photos.app.goo.gl/knlHWc7sYfGqcPpo2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZhjTKCtSaabi5Af82 https://photos.app.goo.gl/wMlI2iJOwYdoYmzu2
 
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Looks like the Pennzoil and Fram are working well for you and doing what they were designed to do. I wish Pennzoil could last in my Montero... Respectfully, Pajero!
 
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Looks very good, but it's sad to see that crud in such a short run in a vehicle with such low mileage. I would run some $4 filters and some Dexos approved synthetic for *3k. Disregard the OLM.
 
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Thanks for the input. Yes it is sad, kind of took me by surprise actually. I might do that, run only 3k and see what it looks like. I get those ultras on ebay for five bucks delivered to my door, so I'm going to stick with them even though I know its a waste to run such filter for 3k to 5 k miles.
 
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Looks very good, but it's sad to see that crud in such a short run in a vehicle with such low mileage. I would run some $4 filters and some Dexos approved synthetic for *3k. Disregard the OLM.
Yeah, I'd bet that engine had non DEXOS bulk swill in it for long while
 

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Originally Posted By: Pajero
Looks like the Pennzoil and Fram are working well for you and doing what they were designed to do. I wish Pennzoil could last in my Montero... Respectfully, Pajero!
Thanks! and yes oil did an excellent job! Why is it not working for you?
 

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Originally Posted By: JeePing
Thanks for the input. Yes it is sad, kind of took me by surprise actually. I might do that, run only 3k and see what it looks like. I get those ultras on ebay for five bucks delivered to my door, so I'm going to stick with them even though I know its a waste to run such filter for 3k to 5 k miles.
If I could get them for that, I'd use them too even though I wasn't reaping the full benefit of them. Curious on that crud? Are people's thoughts, due to the fact Pennzoil was used, that the oil did some major cleaning, or is it the fact an Ultra was used, or a combination of the 2, that is showing this? I am looking forward to the next UOA/filter C&P to see if this stops or continues?
 
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I think dlundblad and Car51 made good observations. Non approved oil was run for too long. Switching to a DEXOS specified oil for 3K mile intervals is a good idea. When the observed dirt between pleats drops off, you will know it is safe to lengthen the OCI/FCI again. If the oil pan is easy to pull on this one, you might consider cleaning the oil pan.
 
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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
I think dlundblad and Car51 made good observations. Non approved oil was run for too long. Switching to a DEXOS specified oil for 3K mile intervals is a good idea. When the observed dirt between pleats drops off, you will know it is safe to lengthen the OCI/FCI again. If the oil pan is easy to pull on this one, you might consider cleaning the oil pan.
Best post so far smile
 

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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
I think dlundblad and Car51 made good observations. Non approved oil was run for too long. Switching to a DEXOS specified oil for 3K mile intervals is a good idea. When the observed dirt between pleats drops off, you will know it is safe to lengthen the OCI/FCI again. If the oil pan is easy to pull on this one, you might consider cleaning the oil pan.
Makes sense.
 

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Thanks for the input guys. I'm not sure running this oil change 3k miles would make for a good comparison. Then one might argue that the reason there is less crud is because of shorter run. I'm probably going to go ahead with 5k mile interval just to keep it about same conditions. This last oil/filter had a 1200 mile trip towing a trailer with my ~900 pound Harley on it. I'm planing a 800 mile trip here shortly and probably another one this summer again with 1200 miles or so. I put in same filter and just about same oil so this would make for a good comparison between the two oil changes. Plus I will have inline trans filter to cut open as well at the same time. Edit: no I did not do UOA.
 
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Originally Posted By: JeePing
Thanks for the input. Yes it is sad, kind of took me by surprise actually. I might do that, run only 3k and see what it looks like. I get those ultras on ebay for five bucks delivered to my door, so I'm going to stick with them even though I know its a waste to run such filter for 3k to 5 k miles.
My vehicles always showed more crud in the filter like that due to cold weather driving. Engine runs a lot richer through the warm-up cycle which causes more ring blow-by and carbon deposits in the oil which the filter catches.
 

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ZeeOSix you might be onto something. Also forgot to mention that I ran two tanks of E85 through the truck. From what I understand ethanol will remove carbon deposits from combustion chamber.
 

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Originally Posted By: Matagonka
The filter's life was cut too short. Way too short.
He's getting them for $5 bucks delivered to his door. Who wouldn't run them for less than what they are manufactured for if you could get them for that price? shrug
 
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Originally Posted By: JeePing
ZeeOSix you might be onto something. Also forgot to mention that I ran two tanks of E85 through the truck. From what I understand ethanol will remove carbon deposits from combustion chamber.
Good point.
 
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: JeePing
Thanks for the input. Yes it is sad, kind of took me by surprise actually. I might do that, run only 3k and see what it looks like. I get those ultras on ebay for five bucks delivered to my door, so I'm going to stick with them even though I know its a waste to run such filter for 3k to 5 k miles.
My vehicles always showed more crud in the filter like that due to cold weather driving. Engine runs a lot richer through the warm-up cycle which causes more ring blow-by and carbon deposits in the oil which the filter catches.
ZeeOSix - would the amount of carbon deposits seen here be normal for this engine and oil change interval? In other words, what a DI engine does.
 
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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: JeePing
Thanks for the input. Yes it is sad, kind of took me by surprise actually. I might do that, run only 3k and see what it looks like. I get those ultras on ebay for five bucks delivered to my door, so I'm going to stick with them even though I know its a waste to run such filter for 3k to 5 k miles.
My vehicles always showed more crud in the filter like that due to cold weather driving. Engine runs a lot richer through the warm-up cycle which causes more ring blow-by and carbon deposits in the oil which the filter catches.
ZeeOSix - would the amount of carbon deposits seen here be normal for this engine and oil change interval? In other words, what a DI engine does.
Can't say for sure, not familiar with that engine. Only data point I have is my filters seem to have more of the black carbon crud in them after using them over the winter time vs the summer time. More enriched cold starts and through the warm-up cycle on cold days, and if DI causes even more of that, then it could also be a contributing factor.
 
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