I see your point but I guess I was thinking that it does meet the specs minus the Dexos license. Ford isn't going to pay GM to have there oil Dexos approved. By all other specs it is just as good. I hope that an oil expert will chim in. My opinion is just that. An opinion.The vehicle cost ~ $38,000 and you want to save $25 on oil that doesn't even meet the manufacture requirements, and possible void an engine warranty. You may want to rethink this. Ed
What exactly does your owner’s manual say for the oil license or specification? Exact words.I see your point but I guess I was thinking that it does meet the specs minus the Dexos license. Ford isn't going to pay GM to have there oil Dexos approved. By all other specs it is just as good. I hope that an oil expert will chim in. My opinion is just that. An opinion.
I understand your point. And I'm not trying to be argumentative here. I'm not sure whether I think I should use it myself or not. I guess my question is how would I prove that I used oil that met the manufacturers specifications and how would the manufacturer prove that I didn't.What exactly does your owner’s manual say for the oil license or specification? Exact words.
I’m not being argumentative either. Please post the exact language your owners manual gives in regards to what license or specification is required for the oil. Does it require a dexos license?I understand your point. And I'm not trying to be argumentative here. I'm not sure whether I think I should use it myself or not. I guess my question is how would I prove that I used oil that met the manufacturers specifications and how would the manufacturer prove that I didn't.
You can’t. But I’ll bet you even more that nowhere in your owner’s manual or in the warranty booklet does it say that use of a dexos licensed oil is a condition of the new-car warranty. But this is why it’s important for you to post the exact language that it does give.My question is out of curiosity in this situation or any other. If GM says the oil must be dexos approved and you have a warranty issue how would you prove to them that you used dexos approved oil or on the other hand how could they prove that you didn't?
That is what I am trying to figure out. What is "the risk". In this case or any other case how would GM or any other manufacturer be able to prove that you were not using the recommended oil?D.....every decision including the one that you are trying to make involves "RISK". I always try to eliminate as much bad risk as I can from every monetary decision that I am trying to make.....that is just me. If you are fine taking the non-Dexos approved engine oil risk, then go for it.....but just understand just what is at risk monetarily.
I would guess that if you had an oil related failure, and GM was to warranty the engine or the repair, they would most likely test the oil. They might also ask you to prove the purchase or oil change records for warranty claim purposes. Believe it or not I have seen this done for third party warranties that dealers have sold, so I know it is possible.That is what I am trying to figure out. What is "the risk". In this case or any other case how would GM or any other manufacturer be able to prove that you were not using the recommended oil?
That is my point on your situation. If you are not concerned with abiding to the rules of warranty then your action of not having receipts / records, or any other proof is ok. But under warranty, I think most OEMs have wording that may put the burden of proof on you as the consumer and not on them as the manufacturer.If I would need receipts to prove that I was using the proper fluids for any vehicle then I guess that I would have been screwed my whole life. I have always done my own maintenance and never saved receipts.