Hey, I'm from Europe (Austria) and just got a new engine for my Stilo Abarth. So I'm wondering which oil I should use.
1. What kind of vehicle you have:
Fiat Stilo Abarth Selespeed 2.4L 20V
2. What your owner's manual says -- not just viscosity, but certifications (look for acronyms like API SM, ILSAC GF-4, etc.) and change intervals as well
Car was sold with Selenia Racing 10w-60.. some Italian mechanic said to me that some Selenia 10w-40 would be fine as well.. but as it is a bit colder in Austria than in Italy, I might want to use 5w-40 oil. No idea what certifications those oils have
3. Where you live
Austria, Vienna
4. How you drive (easy? hard? fast? slow?)
Rather fast.. sometimes I drive at some mountain roads with no traffic and a lot of curves. But it's not like I have spinning wheels after every stop or drive at 4000 rpm the whole time. More like 2000-3000. But generally I like to push the pedal to the metal :>
5. What your daily drive is like (short trips? long trips? city? highway?)
Depends a lot.. I live in the capital city of Austria.. sometimes I drive short trips.. sometimes longer ones.. sometimes highway and sometimes just through the city. Pretty much every summer I drive to Italy for vacation (~600km highway).
6. Whether your car has any known problems
Not really.. Its a new engine with 1400 kilometers. Some people say that this engine needs a thicker oil (10w-60) and also in Italy they put in some 10w-x oil.. But in Austria we sometimes can get -30 Celsius during night (from what I read 10w-x is recommend for -25 Celsius). Also I read that this engine needs the thicker oil because the oil will remain on some parts of the engine so when starting there is already oil. But then there are people driving with 0w-30 and don't have any problems.. so I really don't know what to use
I prefer full synthetic. I will change the oil every year (when driving to Italy for vacation.. as repairing/service costs are way cheaper there and they know much more about my italian bella ;P). So every summer or every ~10.000 kilometers.
I thought about following oils:
Mobil 1 Peak Life 5w-50 (also called Rallye Forumla 5w-50)
Selenia Racing 10w-60
Selenia K-Pure-Enegery 5w-40
Selenia 20K 10w-40 (no idea if this is full synthetic?)
Selenia Performer 5w-40 (no idea if this is full synthetic?)
There are also some special Selenia Abarth oils.. if they are better then I would use them as well. Price is not so important as I can get most oils pretty cheap.
From my understanding the Mobil 1 5w-50 would have the best viscosity index and from what I read it is a very good product. However, Selenia is THE Fiat oil for ages already and they develop their oil for fiat engines. They are also used in other Italian cars (Alfa Romeo,Lancia,Maserati and even Ferrari). But viscosity index isn't everything and there are other factors as well? Also I'm not sure which oil would be best for my engine..
Thanks
@edit:
I have uploaded data sheets/characteristics from all the oils I thought about. You can download them here:
http://files.bestmail.ws/index.php?dir=oil/
or
http://files.bestmail.ws/oil/
They have information about all kind of stuff but I have no idea what is important e.g.
Quote:
Mobil 1 5W-50 Value
Viscosity, cSt ASTM D445
@ 40º C 108
@ 100º C 17.5
Viscosity Index 180
Sulfated Ash, wt% (ASTM D874) 1.3
Phosphorous, wt% (ASTM D4951) 0.1
Flash Point, ºC (ASTM D92) 231
Density @15.6 ºC g/ml, (ASTM D4052) 0.85
Total Base Number (ASTM D2896) 11.8
MRV at -35 ºC, cP (ASTM D4684) 29,244
HTHS Viscosity, mPa•s @ 150 ºC (ASTM D4683) 4.4
1. What kind of vehicle you have:
Fiat Stilo Abarth Selespeed 2.4L 20V
2. What your owner's manual says -- not just viscosity, but certifications (look for acronyms like API SM, ILSAC GF-4, etc.) and change intervals as well
Car was sold with Selenia Racing 10w-60.. some Italian mechanic said to me that some Selenia 10w-40 would be fine as well.. but as it is a bit colder in Austria than in Italy, I might want to use 5w-40 oil. No idea what certifications those oils have
3. Where you live
Austria, Vienna
4. How you drive (easy? hard? fast? slow?)
Rather fast.. sometimes I drive at some mountain roads with no traffic and a lot of curves. But it's not like I have spinning wheels after every stop or drive at 4000 rpm the whole time. More like 2000-3000. But generally I like to push the pedal to the metal :>
5. What your daily drive is like (short trips? long trips? city? highway?)
Depends a lot.. I live in the capital city of Austria.. sometimes I drive short trips.. sometimes longer ones.. sometimes highway and sometimes just through the city. Pretty much every summer I drive to Italy for vacation (~600km highway).
6. Whether your car has any known problems
Not really.. Its a new engine with 1400 kilometers. Some people say that this engine needs a thicker oil (10w-60) and also in Italy they put in some 10w-x oil.. But in Austria we sometimes can get -30 Celsius during night (from what I read 10w-x is recommend for -25 Celsius). Also I read that this engine needs the thicker oil because the oil will remain on some parts of the engine so when starting there is already oil. But then there are people driving with 0w-30 and don't have any problems.. so I really don't know what to use
I prefer full synthetic. I will change the oil every year (when driving to Italy for vacation.. as repairing/service costs are way cheaper there and they know much more about my italian bella ;P). So every summer or every ~10.000 kilometers.
I thought about following oils:
Mobil 1 Peak Life 5w-50 (also called Rallye Forumla 5w-50)
Selenia Racing 10w-60
Selenia K-Pure-Enegery 5w-40
Selenia 20K 10w-40 (no idea if this is full synthetic?)
Selenia Performer 5w-40 (no idea if this is full synthetic?)
There are also some special Selenia Abarth oils.. if they are better then I would use them as well. Price is not so important as I can get most oils pretty cheap.
From my understanding the Mobil 1 5w-50 would have the best viscosity index and from what I read it is a very good product. However, Selenia is THE Fiat oil for ages already and they develop their oil for fiat engines. They are also used in other Italian cars (Alfa Romeo,Lancia,Maserati and even Ferrari). But viscosity index isn't everything and there are other factors as well? Also I'm not sure which oil would be best for my engine..
Thanks
@edit:
I have uploaded data sheets/characteristics from all the oils I thought about. You can download them here:
http://files.bestmail.ws/index.php?dir=oil/
or
http://files.bestmail.ws/oil/
They have information about all kind of stuff but I have no idea what is important e.g.
Quote:
Mobil 1 5W-50 Value
Viscosity, cSt ASTM D445
@ 40º C 108
@ 100º C 17.5
Viscosity Index 180
Sulfated Ash, wt% (ASTM D874) 1.3
Phosphorous, wt% (ASTM D4951) 0.1
Flash Point, ºC (ASTM D92) 231
Density @15.6 ºC g/ml, (ASTM D4052) 0.85
Total Base Number (ASTM D2896) 11.8
MRV at -35 ºC, cP (ASTM D4684) 29,244
HTHS Viscosity, mPa•s @ 150 ºC (ASTM D4683) 4.4
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