Which companies "thumb" their noses at ratings?

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Which motor oil companies are making their engine oil the very best oil they can without having much (if any) concern about meeting environmental requirements? In other words, they aren't worried about this rating or that rating or how your efficient your catalytic convertor is working. They are trying to make the very best engine protecting oil they can. Please don't give me a lecture on how twisted or non-conforming I am, okay? I'm sick of alcohol in my gas, tired of cramming electric cars down my throat, frustrated with EPA guidelines, have little faith in government, not to mention my trust in Toyota, etc. Maybe I should go to bed early tonight....
 
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Originally Posted By: Gebo
Please don't give me a lecture on how twisted or non-conforming I am, okay? I'm sick of alcohol in my gas, tired of cramming electric cars down my throat, frustrated with EPA guidelines, have little faith in government, etc.
Hear hear!!! cheers
 
Boutique oil companies are, in my opinion, worried about making the best possible oils. That's why they forgo the API certifications -- they either put all the money into R&D, or they know they can't meet certain aspects of a given certification. Interestingly Renewable Lubricants tries to be environmentally-responsible by using bio-esters.
 
Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: Gebo
Please don't give me a lecture on how twisted or non-conforming I am, okay? I'm sick of alcohol in my gas, tired of cramming electric cars down my throat, frustrated with EPA guidelines, have little faith in government, etc.
Hear hear!!! cheers
x2
 
Originally Posted By: dparm
...Interestingly Renewable Lubricants tries to be environmentally-responsible by using bio-esters.
dparm, you sir, may have crossed the line with your first hyphenated word! I tasted my meatloaf from supper coming up the chute. Close.... grin
 
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x eleventy billion . Yep too many regulations that are not logical and well thought out . The same can be said for the auto industry and many others. I wish I would still buy a brand new MKI VW Golf GTI. But the safety nannies and EPA nazis have made it impossible, not to mention that the massive amount of regulations make buying even the most basic new car today OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive today.
 
What the heck is wrong with a quality manufacturer like RLI using renewable resources? Why is "environmentally-responsible" such a bad word that it makes you want to throw up? I would not like to have my water catching on fire and not be able to use water out of the tap. Think about the problems that would cause you. It happens out there. Just use a good quality oil my friend, you are over thinking things...as I do myself sometimes.
 
Originally Posted By: Gebo
Which motor oil companies are making their engine oil the very best oil they can without having much (if any) concern about meeting environmental requirements? In other words, they aren't worried about this rating or that rating or how your efficient your catalytic convertor is working. They are trying to make the very best engine protecting oil they can. Please don't give me a lecture on how twisted or non-conforming I am, okay? I'm sick of alcohol in my gas, tired of cramming electric cars down my throat, frustrated with EPA guidelines, have little faith in government, not to mention my trust in Toyota, etc. Maybe I should go to bed early tonight....
 
Originally Posted By: chubbs1
What the heck is wrong with a quality manufacturer like RLI using renewable resources? Why is "environmentally-responsible" such a bad word that it makes you want to throw up? I would not like to have my water catching on fire and not be able to use water out of the tap. Think about the problems that would cause you. It happens out there. Just use a good quality oil my friend, you are over thinking things...as I do myself sometimes.
You must have missed my smiley face at the end.... grin
 
I think its funny that the environment is involved with oil. I think it should be privatized and make the companies compete. That way we have the very best products due to demand of such. We all know those ratings don't mean much. The govt is more concerned with the environment than longevity of a vehicle. That being said I do believe in a practical approach to keeping the environment safe and clean
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
I think its funny that the environment is involved with oil. I think it should be privatized and make the companies compete. That way we have the very best products due to demand of such. We all know those ratings don't mean much. The govt is more concerned with the environment than longevity of a vehicle. That being said I do believe in a practical approach to keeping the environment safe and clean
If you really think that the private market can protect the environment then you don't really understand the abilities and limitations of markets. We tried just letting the market do it. The result was the spontaneous combustion of Lake Erie to which Chubbs alludes.
 
Originally Posted By: teddyboy
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
I think its funny that the environment is involved with oil. I think it should be privatized and make the companies compete. That way we have the very best products due to demand of such. We all know those ratings don't mean much. The govt is more concerned with the environment than longevity of a vehicle. That being said I do believe in a practical approach to keeping the environment safe and clean
If you really think that the private market can protect the environment then you don't really understand the abilities and limitations of markets. We tried just letting the market do it. The result was the spontaneous combustion of Lake Erie to which Chubbs alludes.
Chubbs?
 
Regulations . Some complete government control no. Th ey shouldn't be allowed to destroy everything but I think its funny the govt decides what's good and bad instead of letting the people do it. I dont need the govt or Anyone else saying what's good for my car. The govt is more concerned with enviromemt that longevity. That scares me. When they came out with 134 freon and did a way with r12 it was because the 134 wasn't as bad for the environment. Except that it leaks easier. Now they have a new freon coming out because 134 is to bad for the air. So to me this whole thing is a failure instead of making new refrigerant how about making better seals to keep the stuff from leaking? Seems like common sense but not to the feds.
 
So, nobody can answer my question? Molakule? Caterham?
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
Regulations . Some complete government control no. Th ey shouldn't be allowed to destroy everything but I think its funny the govt decides what's good and bad instead of letting the people do it. I dont need the govt or Anyone else saying what's good for my car. The govt is more concerned with enviromemt that longevity. That scares me. When they came out with 134 freon and did a way with r12 it was because the 134 wasn't as bad for the environment. Except that it leaks easier. Now they have a new freon coming out because 134 is to bad for the air. So to me this whole thing is a failure instead of making new refrigerant how about making better seals to keep the stuff from leaking? Seems like common sense but not to the feds.
it dont stop there they took one of my asthma meds off the market seems that the cfcs in each puff was bad for the enviromemt the new stuff costs two times as much gone to far IMO
 
Originally Posted By: Gebo
I'm sick of alcohol in my gas, tired of cramming electric cars down my throat, frustrated with EPA guidelines, have little faith in government, not to mention my trust in Toyota, etc.
That is how I feel 2. Lately, especially, having this rather primitive urge to quit flying across the globe and start sailing, blue water sailing.. Btw, deregulation does not necessarily mean no regulation
 
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