What is Penetro?

[Ken2]

The back label of a 703 10W-30 Schaeffer bottle refers to Penetro, but Schaeffer's #703 tech data sheet does not refer to it. The #703 MSDS doesn't show anything that jumps out to me that might have this tradename. What is Penetro, and what does it do? Ken

 

[Patman]

Penetro is an antiwear additive that has similar properties to moly, but other than that I believe it's pretty secretive. Let's just say it works very well!

 

[cobravenom71]

Penetro!...It sounds like a pornographic monster from an old Godzilla movie! [ December 07, 2002, 10:37 PM: Message edited by: cobravenom71 ]

 

[supertrofeo]

For that matter, whats Penzane (found in Penzoil Synthetics)?

 

[mkosem]

for that matter, what's supersyn? --Matt

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by mkosem: for that matter, what's supersyn?

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From the ExxonMobil PAO web page:

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SuperSyn PAO, made with a proprietary patented technology, is a high-viscosity fluid typically used at low treat rates to balance the viscometrics, shear stability and low temperature properties of a lubricant. Its viscosity ranges between 150 to 2,800 cSt at 100° C.

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The addition of SuperSyn PAO to Mobil 1 was the reason for the name change from Tri-Synthetic to SuperSyn.

 

[MolaKule]

Edit: What is the penetro additive? A surfactant (which is a contraction for " surface-active-agent") which causes spreading of the AW/EP additives. It is also a corrosion inhibitor, a lubricant, and a dispersant. In the trade, we call it ELCA, or in organic chemistry, a special "Alkylamine." Neat stuff - coats metals well, is extremely slippery, and stabilizes tbn and reduces oxidation. [ December 09, 2002, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]

 

[Ken2]

What is the chemical name for Penetro? (Without revealing any trade secrets) I did a search on ELCA...got Evangelical Lutheran Church in America...so I just need faith that Penetro works??? I put Schaeffer's 701 5W-30 into my Toyota V8 yesterday. This morning when I started the engine it was silent, no cold piston slap, and I could clearly hear the exhaust popping out of the manifold cracks as soon as I put it into gear--I've never heard that this clearly before. Ken [ December 08, 2002, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: Ken2 ]

 

[MolaKule]

I think a lot of piston slap could be reduced by adding Schaeffer's #132 (4 oz. to 8 oz. per 5 quarts); it has a Penetro concentrate in it plus SbDTC. I don't recommend using additives until I have tested them and used them in my own vehicles. #132, LC, and Nuetra I have tested and do what they claim. [ December 08, 2002, 11:35 PM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]

 

[Ken2]

But what is Penetro? Ken

 

[dragboat]

Here ya go Ken a bit more on Antimony. I will try to send you something else on it,if it does not make it search Conocon,a Division of Conoco . http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000781#000015

 

[68redlines73]

Penetro = Antimony Dithiocarbamate + Teflon + Base Oil. Interesting Stuff! http://www.schaefferoil.com/msds/190SPRAY.html http://www.schaefferoil.com/msds/190E.html

 

[jason07-1zzfe]

That's only the spray. They don't put Teflon in engine oils.

 

[MolaKule]

I think you're confusing the Penetro Spray Product with the penetro additive. from above - "Edit: What is the penetro additive? A surfactant (which is a contraction for " surface-active-agent") which causes spreading of the AW/EP additives. It is also a corrosion inhibitor, a lubricant, and a dispersant. In the trade, we call it ELCA, or in organic chemistry, a special "Alkylamine." Neat stuff - coats metals well, is extremely slippery, and stabilizes tbn and reduces oxidation." [ December 09, 2002, 11:26 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]