What about NEO?

[bearclaw]

Howdy:

New member here, replaced M1 10W/30 in one my five vehicles (Saab turbo) with NEO recently as a test, because I had heard good things about it. I'm on my second cycle, had UOA done on first change but it was a short interval and I really couldn't conclude much from it. Anyone have any take on this stuff?

 

[MolaKule]

Here is a VOA discussion:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000156

 

[bearclaw]

I wish I had the knowledge you guys have to sort this out. Aside from the cost factor, can anyone interpret that thread for me? Is this a good oil, so-so, or detrimental in any way?

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

bearclaw, I'm no expert but I don't see the value in this oil.

 

[Patman]

Can you share your first UOA report with us? I'd love to see some reports on this oil, especially their 0w5 oil! (which I suspect is not as thin of an oil as their name implies)

 

[sprintman]

NEO is highly regarded in F1, CART, IRL etc and actually mandatory in several racing transmissions. They have helped F1 teams with special grease etc for CV joints. I know here Range Rovers were chopping out o'drive gear when driven at constant high speed in summer and only NEO fixed it.

 

[oilyriser]

Would it be safe to put NEO in a Toyota Matrix?

 

[bearclaw]

Actually, I went back and looked, and my first cycle since I've had this car was on M1 10W/30 (with five cars, I get them confused occasionally

). So this will be my first on NEO. I think I'm gonna send in a sample for VOA, since I've got another gallon left and I'd like a baseline report to check against the one Jason8691 got.

BTW, can someone interpret the abreviations from the VOA thread? for me:
PCMO
ZDDP
EP

Wonder how significant it is that it is only SH rated, not SL?

 

[Patman]

quote:

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Originally posted by bearclaw:


BTW, can someone interpret the abreviations from the VOA thread? for me:
PCMO
ZDDP
EP

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PCMO stands for Passenger Car Motor Oil
ZDDP stands for zinc dialkyldithiophosphates, or it basically means your zinc and phosphorus content
EP stands for Extreme Pressure

 

[bearclaw]

I don't drive the car it's in very much, but my initial observation with the 10W-30 is that my engine is quieter than it than it's ever been on M1 or Amsoil ATM. No seal leakage, but I had none before. It almost never gets below the 30's in the winter here, I might just go with it year-round. Anxious to see what the UOA looks like.

 

[unDummy]

Neo isn't an SL oil. I wouldn't use it in a new car; actually I would since I don't car for warranties and do all my own repairs.
I don't have much support for API.
The VOA wasn't anything but---cost too much. Nothing there was bad.

We need a bunch of good/bad/average UOAs before any UNBIASED conclusion can be made.

 

[N2OIL]

A few answers on NEO. Neo is an excellent oil in my opinion. I have used many oils to compare to and Neo stands out in a few areas. NEO was put in my test car that had seals seeping and they no longer seep is this due to a Group 5 basestock I believe so. Also this test car has 217,000 miles and gets excellent gas mileage also my opinion.
1985 PONTIAC Parisenne 305 V-8 217,000 miles and gets 19.8 MPG.
Midwest temps are 10 degrees to 102 degrees the oil 10/30 is the oil I use all year long with no problems. The ratio for driving is 60/40 highway/city.
Also questions on procedures for NEO they recommend a filter change every 3-5 thousand miles depending on driving conditions. The filter brands recommended are OEM (AC,MOTORCRAFT) or WIX oil filters. So a cost analysis is 7 quarts of oil for the year on my test car and 4 oil filters for the year. $70 for oil and $20 for filters (WIX).
Thanks for your time.
If you have any questions Paul Baker could answer them the number is on their website:
neosyntheticoil.

[ December 10, 2003, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: rugerman1 ]

 

[Bror Jace]

VOAs are one thing.

But I'd like to see a forum member try this stuff a couple times, run their car AT LEAST 5,000 miles and then post the UOAs.

--- Bror Jace