Want a longer filter than stock for an 06 Hemi Ram

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Anyone know how to find out what longer than stock filter would fit my 06 Hemi Dodge Ram? I use a Wix #51085 or a Napa Gold #1085 but I can cross most any filter number on the Wix filter site. Is there a procedure to find longer filters for other cars and trucks? Thanks!
 
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I have a chart that lists the thread size and gasket size for each oil filter, along with dimensions. if your Ram uses the standard mid-sized Mopar filter, then you should be able to use a standard Ford/Chrysler full-sized filter, given there is clearance for the length. I have used the longer filters on my Jeep GC, Ram Van for years. I have not tried the longer filter on my hemi durango yet..... for instance, I think the Fram number for the mid-sized is PH16, whereas the full length is PH8. or cross reference a motorcraft FL1A.
 
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When I was looking for the larger version of the OEM size M1 filter I called them directly and was given the information. You might be able to find the M1 application and give them a call. You can either run the larger M1 or reference the part number back to WIX or other brand. WIX may be able to provide the same info as well.
 
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A Wix 51515 should work providing there is clearance. It has the same diameter and specs as the OEM recommended filter just a bit longer. I use the equivalent on my own dodge truck (Non Hemi) and Caravan with no issues. 51515 interchanges with a Fram PH8A and a Ford FL1A
 
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Yup, on an 06 5.7L you can run the bigger Ford style filter( FL1A )as the poster above mentions. 08+ 5.7L's swapped to metric threads so you can't but on the earlier ones you can. Very slight differences but they mount up and work fine. Quite a few guys report using them on the Dodge sites. Just a note - I have not personally done this but I have researched the spec's and all seems good. \:\!
 
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 Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Did they just do a nipple swap on the 08+ ?? If so, then it should be easy enough to find the older nipple and get the flexibility back.
The Pre-08 filters for the 4.7L and 5.7L were the equivelant of a Fram PH16. On the new 08+ 4.7L and 5.7L engines there are 2 different filters out there. There is a new part # specific to these engines from Wix( # 57899 ). Then you have 99.9% of other filter mfg's recommending an older short Ford filter( MTC #FL820 / Fram PH2 )which works as well( I know as I am running one RP 20-820 ). Base gasket/seal diameters are a little different between them all but they are so minute it is not an issue. They seal ok. The big difference I see spec wise between them is the bypass valve PSI rating( varies from mfg to mfg ). Much higher on the 08+ filter design. The newer filters seem to have a higher flow rate as well( I have checked many mfg's - only going to list Wix here ). Here are the fiilter spec's using Wix filters as the examples... Pre-08 Filter: Part Number: 51085( PH16 ) Style: Spin-On Lube Filter Service: Lube Type: Full Flow Media: Paper Height: 3.790 Outer Diameter Top: 3.660 Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed Thread Size: 3/4-16 By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11 Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes Beta Ratio: 2/20=15/28 Burst Pressure-PSI: 290 Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM Nominal Micron Rating: 21 Gasket Diameters Number O.D. I.D. Thk. Attached 2.834 2.462 0.200 Wix 08+ Filter: Part Number: 57899 Style: Spin-On Lube Filter Service: Lube Type: Full Flow Media: Paper Height: 3.740 Outer Diameter Top: 3.675 Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed Thread Size: 22X1.5 MM 6-H By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 16 Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes Nominal Micron Rating: 21 Gasket Diameters Number O.D. I.D. Thk. Attached 2.815 2.480 0.175 Other 08+ Filter( #FL820 / PH16 ): Part Number: 51372 Style: Spin-On Lube Filter Service: Lube Type: Full Flow Media: Paper Height: 4.167 Outer Diameter Top: 3.668 Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed Thread Size: 22X1.5 MM By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 16 Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes Beta Ratio: 2/20=12/25 Burst Pressure-PSI: 275 Max Flow Rate: 11-13 GPM Nominal Micron Rating: 21 Gasket Diameters Number O.D. I.D. Thk. Attached 2.834 2.462 0.200
 
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