Volkswagen to Overtake Tesla’s Battery Electric Vehicle Sales Crown by 2024, Finds Bloomberg Intelligence
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Bloomberg intelligence?
Those batteries, that lithium. The price will not be 35k. It's headed the other way.... 42-57k 'options'. As of now. The future? Hmmm.
I agree. VW will do well with the battery electric segment and Toyota will shine with their hybrids.
Competition is good for the EV market. But 2024 is just over the horizon and I seriously doubt that VW could upend the EV sales figures that quickly. Maybe if there is a new EV class called "economy" or something that cars that have an MSRP under $30k will compete in.
GM ever being a really major player in the EV market ? I doubt it. I suspect they will offer a mediocre vehicle at an attractive price and will capture some sales due to brand loyalty, as they do in the ICE categories now.
But Bloomberg Intelligence must not be taking into account that Tesla has been at least 5 years ahead of everyone else for years and I doubt they will suddenly grow stagnant and allow other makers to catch up or even exceed their performance and reliability. I think the only niche in Tesla's armor is Elon's refusal to enter the race to the bottom regarding selling price. That is a foot in the door for other makers who are willing to sell a lot of EV's at very low margins while they are (hopefully) building market share.
GM ever being a really major player in the EV market ? I doubt it. I suspect they will offer a mediocre vehicle at an attractive price and will capture some sales due to brand loyalty, as they do in the ICE categories now.
But Bloomberg Intelligence must not be taking into account that Tesla has been at least 5 years ahead of everyone else for years and I doubt they will suddenly grow stagnant and allow other makers to catch up or even exceed their performance and reliability. I think the only niche in Tesla's armor is Elon's refusal to enter the race to the bottom regarding selling price. That is a foot in the door for other makers who are willing to sell a lot of EV's at very low margins while they are (hopefully) building market share.
Yeah, if quality is what customers end up going after, Tesla is biggest loser.
They will have a hard time getting over this reputation.
Just like BMW will never shake its reputation for poor reliability.
I think VW was trying to go at least slightly premium with this offering. I thought the interior was nice in the version I drove. My wife and I have an AWD on order now. We did look at the Mach-E and it was nice, but they've frozen orders on Mach-Es at this time and I think my wife preferred the ID.4. Of course the ID.4 won't set any drag race records against other electric offerings and I know some reviewers have called it boring, but I don't see it as a car that screams "look at me, I'm electric!" which I don't think she wanted.
Tesla has just spent a ton of money to build factories to build a car that was designed 5 years ago.
Does BMW have a reliability issue? Was not aware of that.
ID4 PRo will probably end up in our garage.
A good vehicle, unlike Tesla, has all screws properly torqued or not missing any. It would replace our Tiguan, so we would gain in space for sure, built quality is same, and our Tiguan looks pretty much new after 11 years.
They have a reputation for poor reliability and expensive service.
The two I've owned weren't great.
I enjoyed the driving experience, but not the ownership experience.
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