I was reading the 10 page thread from 2011 for a VOA of Ultra 5w20 and the volatility was being discussed at a level of 10%-12%. However, it appears that Shell/Pennzoil updated the PDS on the Shell site in December. It is now 5%.
If this has already been discussed, I apologize.
http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC_X_cbe_24855_key_140006587314_201112051450.pdf
Volatility of Pennzoil Ultra 5w20
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I'm just waiting for the SN stuff to show up!
Unfortunately, the history of accuracy on the Pennzoil
site leaves a lot to be desired. In fact, they still show
NO updated PDS for PP and the PDS for PU is ancient.
Pennzoil Synthetic is Group 3 and as has been discussed
here, the extremely low Noack numbers are very suspect. More than likely, a "1" needs to appear in front
on the numbers being reported on the Shell site.
Pennzoil demonstrates little interest in providing current
and accurate PDS info to the consumer and deserves the
same from the consumer in buying their product.
Aren't they a vendor on here?
Originally Posted By: CMMeadAM
Pennzoil Synthetic is Group 3
Ah yes look at all the info the others give.......NOT. Try Ashland,, Castrol. The only real info that might be alittle more is Mobil. But that is not much. We are treated as we do not matter just do it and do not ask questions. Either way if Ultra is all of that and it will take time to know, we might have a real winner and who cares if they answer the e-mails?
Originally Posted By: ottotheclown
Ah yes look at all the info the others give.......NOT. Try Ashland,, Castrol. The only real info that might be alittle more is Mobil. But that is not much. We are treated as we do not matter just do it and do not ask questions. Either way if Ultra is all of that and it will take time to know, we might have a real winner and who cares if they answer the e-mails?
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At least Ashland and I think mobil answers ther emails.
Originally Posted By: addyguy
PU is NOT PAO based....it uses SOPUS's new 'GTL' derived group-III base oil.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: addyguy
PU is NOT PAO based....it uses SOPUS's new 'GTL' derived group-III base oil.
I don't have a problem with slow posting of PDS, as the great majority of the supply chain is apparently still filled with the SM PU.
Not having a PDS posted at all due to website issues is slightly different...
CMMeadAM - so I assume that PU SN is available in your geographical area?
The shoddy business practices are when the previously available information regarding a product that is still for sale is no longer available. Publishing new specifications is voluntary and those timetables vary by company and even division within a company.
Originally Posted By: Coprolite
CMMeadAM - so I assume that PU SN is available in your geographical area?
The shoddy business practices are when the previously available information regarding a product that is still for sale is no longer available. Publishing new specifications is voluntary and those timetables vary by company and even division within a company.
For your edification, SOPUS, Shell posted information on their site regarding the Pennzoil SN oil and within that post, exceptionally low NOACK numbers were listed. All we were asking
was verification.
A few have questioned them in one way or another. Our questions were by email and letter in an attempt to authenticate the NOACK values. Their response has been nil.
In my company failure to res[pond to the customer would result in a personnel write-up, and would be considered SLOPPY, and SHODDY.
We're well aware publishing new standards are voluntary, but since Shell already published them for Pennzoil, and possibly with incorrect information, there is nothing wrong with questioning them and when doing so, receiving a response.
Originally Posted By: CMMeadAM
For your edification, SOPUS, Shell posted information on their site regarding the Pennzoil SN oil and within that post, exceptionally low NOACK numbers were listed. All we were asking
was verification.
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